SHARK TANK STORY | My First Million Podcast

Shark Tank, Biggest Deal, and $1 Million in 4 Days - March 4, 2020 (about 5 years ago) • 11:12

This My First Million podcast episode features Shaan Puri and Sam Parr interviewing Julia Cheek, founder of Everlywell, about her Shark Tank experience. Cheek details the extensive application and preparation process, highlighting the importance of crafting a compelling human interest story. She also discusses the post-show deal-making process, revealing that the final deal with Lori Greiner was even better than the one initially agreed upon on-air.

  • Shark Tank Application Process: Cheek describes the rigorous application process, including a 50-page written application, multiple interviews, and months of collaboration with producers to refine her story and pitch. She emphasizes the significant time commitment involved, stating that preparing for Shark Tank consumed 80% of her time in 2017.

  • The Shark Tank Pitch and Deal: Cheek recounts her experience on the show, mentioning her initial nervousness despite prior public speaking experience. She successfully secured a deal with Lori Greiner, the largest deal for a female entrepreneur at the time, based on a $20 million valuation. The deal involved a line of credit at an 8% interest rate for 5% of the company, which later improved in Everlywell’s favor during post-show negotiations.

  • Post-Shark Tank Diligence and Deal Changes: Cheek explains that many deals made on Shark Tank never materialize or undergo changes after the show. She describes Lori Greiner’s due diligence process as thorough and fair, ultimately resulting in a more favorable deal for Everlywell.

  • Lori Greiner’s Investment Strategy: Shaan, Sam and Julia discuss Lori Greiner's investment approach and her success with several prominent Shark Tank companies. They speculate about the source of Greiner's capital, questioning whether it stems from direct investments, a fund, or the cash flow from successful portfolio companies.

  • Everlywell’s Post-Shark Tank Traffic and Sales: Cheek shares the impact of the Shark Tank appearance on Everlywell’s website traffic and sales. While the company experienced a 30x increase in traffic, the sales boost was more of a sustained increase over the following days and weeks rather than an immediate spike. This resulted in $1 million in sales within four days of airing and continued growth in the months that followed.

  • Everlywell’s E-commerce Platform: The conversation briefly touches upon Everlywell’s choice of e-commerce platform, with Cheek mentioning their custom-built solution on Stripe and acknowledging that Shopify might have been a better option in retrospect.

Transcript:

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Shaan Puri
The other thing that's interesting is you were on shark tank
Julia Cheek
I was
Shaan Puri
So, as a fan of reality TV, Sam and I both watched *The Challenge*, probably the trashiest reality show that they're doing. But it's nice.
Sam Parr
to see the finale of the netflix one
Shaan Puri
of which one the circle
Sam Parr
no the one where they get married after living in a room
Shaan Puri
love is blind yeah but didn't it all come out already didn't they just release it
Sam Parr
today today
Shaan Puri
I'm at I'm at episode 3 of that one good show
Sam Parr
it's a pretty awesome show
Shaan Puri
pretty good show have you seen it
Julia Cheek
I haven't seen it yet
Shaan Puri
do you know the premise
Julia Cheek
I do know the premise they put people in rooms and then they don't see each other
Shaan Puri
yes so it's it's actually pretty cool as a ser experiment
Julia Cheek
have to
Sam Parr
get married yeah they have to get married or
Shaan Puri
You get cut off the show. Like, literally, you don't even get eliminated "Survivor" style; they just edit you out. You're just not shown ever again if you didn't propose. So what ends up happening is it's 10 days behind a wall. You talk to this person, and you're speed dating basically behind a wall. You're kind of deciding who you like. Then someone proposes through the wall. They're like, "Can you come close to the wall, please? I'm on a knee now, and I want to ask you to marry me." But the thing is, I thought that's where the show would end. Then they put them in the real world together and say, "Alright, you're going to get married in 30 days and see what happens." It's pretty interesting stuff. Okay, so good job, Netflix! Shout out.
Julia Cheek
to you I was
Sam Parr
actually with
Shaan Puri
**Shark Tank**—tell me about how it came about. You applied many times. One time, how did you get on?
Julia Cheek
Yeah, so *Shark Tank* was... honestly, I am a huge fan of the show. I also am a huge fan of my own experience. That's not something I think everyone has to say, but I always tell people I think it can be a really game-changing thing for entrepreneurs if you do it the right way. It is a lot of freaking work. A ton of work, really. So I...
Shaan Puri
once you're on or before you're on
Julia Cheek
before you're on okay so I would say like so I we aired in november of 2017
Shaan Puri
go to the beginning how'd you even audition
Julia Cheek
Like a 9-month process of... I say the year of 2017, 80% of my year was short talk. So we applied. It's a... and by "we," it's like a 50-page written application, online or... no, it is printed and written out. I tried to use a PDF editor. I mean, it was...
Sam Parr
it's a writer
Julia Cheek
yeah like you know it was like a decade ago
Shaan Puri
so you write this whole thing up
Julia Cheek
I wrote this whole thing out. I will be honest, I was a finalist at TechCrunch Battlefield in 2016. The producer's scout...
Shaan Puri
from gotcha so they reached out maybe
Julia Cheek
so they reached out
Sam Parr
that's cool
Julia Cheek
So, it's kind of like if you're thinking about *American Idol*—maybe, which I would never be. You either can get contacted and sort of get in the front to do an audition, or you kind of... So, it's not that I had necessarily a better chance, but I did get shortcut into the application process. I filled that out. The application probably takes about 40 hours, and then you have to sign all their contracts and basically sign your identity and image away to ABC for *in perpetuity*. From there, you do a voice interview with producers, and you also do a video interview as part of the application. Then, there's another video interview of your pitch. After that, the producers work with you for about four months to get on like what is your story, what is your brand, and what is your script. Ultimately, it's your... what I think people don't realize.
Shaan Puri
on the human interest story
Julia Cheek
It's a human interest story. You are there to make good reality TV, but it is your decision. The producers will help you and advise you, but this is your gig. It's up to you to decide how you want to display yourself and who you want to be on TV. But...
Shaan Puri
so do you still remember your not
Julia Cheek
to air you
Shaan Puri
do you still remember your opening because you probably drilled it like a 1000 times
Julia Cheek
I did, I did. And I will tell you, I thought I was really good and comfortable at public speaking. Then I did this, and I was like, "Okay, I was really bad." Now, I'm comfortable. Yeah, money from them. I did. So, I signed or I shook on the largest deal ever for a female entrepreneur in terms of valuation. Wow! So, yeah, with Lori Greiner, she is on board. She's been tremendous.
Shaan Puri
because of qvc or what
Julia Cheek
And for me, it was really at the time we had no brick-and-mortar retail presence. I knew that creating a product that was actually accessible and ubiquitous was a priority for us. In hindsight, that's actually been a really good move for us. I felt that she would be invaluable in helping us to get there, and she helped with some of those stores. Yeah, she really helped us to get established.
Shaan Puri
does she help
Julia Cheek
Some of those stores, yeah, she really helped with packaging and branding. She made something that's accessible when you're trying to sell a testing kit. People either think it's a DNA kit or they have no idea what it is. Being able to differentiate that when you have like 10 seconds to grab something is crucial.
Sam Parr
how much of a check did she write
Julia Cheek
so the deal we shook on was
Sam Parr
why did you say shook
Shaan Puri
because there's the shake on it and then there's the actual deal
Julia Cheek
what's the
Sam Parr
actual deal
Julia Cheek
I can't disclose that oh come on however it's different
Sam Parr
yes better or worse
Julia Cheek
better for the company and probably better for lori
Shaan Puri
And better, because honestly, why does the deal change? Normally, there's due diligence, and they might change it, probably for their favor. But you're saying it went better for you guys. How does it improve?
Julia Cheek
so there was a and it's very case by case so what happens after the show is can I
Shaan Puri
Pause you one second. I want to make sure you project because your audio... what you're saying is great. I want to make sure we're getting it all, so my audio paranoia.
Julia Cheek
just make
Shaan Puri
sure you're talk louder than you're comfortable talking
Julia Cheek
So, after you shake on the deal on the show, a fair number of those deals— I think it's something like over half—never come to fruition at all. Then, another quarter or so actually change, and another quarter gets done at terms that I don't know much about.
Sam Parr
you show up screw
Julia Cheek
yeah the sharks I think it
Sam Parr
screw these
Julia Cheek
Each shark has a different approach. So, like, I don't know what each shark's process is. I can say Lori's was super fair. They go through very detailed diligence on everything. But, you know, what the show actually does is diligence on you. They have a venture analyst on board, so they run diligence on you before you ever pitch.
Sam Parr
what was your valuation
Julia Cheek
That you guys agreed on. I pitched... my valuation was $20,000,000 post-money.
Sam Parr
and how much did she invest
Julia Cheek
so that was a pay for you
Sam Parr
or whatever
Julia Cheek
it was a line of credit deal at an 8% interest rate for 5% of the company
Shaan Puri
And was it like, you know, "Hey, deal offer on the spot," or did you have this long pause where you're like, "Can I think and write this down?"
Julia Cheek
Well, in my case, every shark was out. I actually knew I wanted either Laurie or Mark Cuban. Sorry, Laurie or Mark Cuban. I was really excited about it, and I really did want to work with her. It was a good deal. So, I actually sat on the show because you're supposed to negotiate.
Sam Parr
right
Julia Cheek
I said because it makes good tv
Shaan Puri
yes
Julia Cheek
and so I said I know I'm supposed to negotiate but I wanna take this deal
Shaan Puri
right
Julia Cheek
So, I didn't... You do have it. It's really what you see. Like, you can exit. You can talk about it with your partner. You can call a lifeline or a friend. They may edit that out or whatever else, but you can take a minute to think about it.
Shaan Puri
What's something people don't see or don't realize that is different from having actually gone through it versus watching it? What's one difference?
Julia Cheek
I think people know it's edited. I don't think people realize how long the actual filming time can be. From when you walk in and walk out, they edit it down to about 5 minutes. So, it varies, but mine was probably an hour, and they edited it to 7 minutes. Some people's footage has gone on for up to 2 to 3 hours, while others are only 15 minutes. I think, you know, it's edited to a degree, but I don't think you realize how much discussion actually happens.
Sam Parr
was lori investing her own money
Julia Cheek
she she is investing her own money
Sam Parr
yeah so then does she have a fund or is it literally just hers
Julia Cheek
it is in a fund structure but it's her capital
Shaan Puri
how it's her money she's worked
Julia Cheek
You know, I don't know. I will say she is a prolific salesperson in the sense that she has relationships with the top 3 or 4 companies from *Shark Tank*. I mean companies that have done like a quarter of a billion in sales, like *Squatty Potty*. She has a relationship with each of those companies and is invested in each of them. I suspect quite a bit, not to mention her own patent portfolio and the success she's had with products. But do they have a great team?
Sam Parr
But do those pay cash flow? I mean, who cares if you... I mean, it's important, but if you own equity in that business.
Julia Cheek
and there's not an exit
Sam Parr
yeah so I
Julia Cheek
don't know where's
Sam Parr
her cash coming from
Julia Cheek
I don't know I don't know
Sam Parr
I'd be very yeah
Shaan Puri
sam's gonna get to the bottom of
Julia Cheek
this yeah I'd be very happy because well because I also agree
Sam Parr
with bad checks
Julia Cheek
well and I also don't know
Shaan Puri
she takes that saudi money
Julia Cheek
No, she's... each deal is different, right? So, like, she does it just like any deal is different. Right? She's negotiating a deal with me, right? That's different. I don't know what the terms are, you know, with the rest of her companies. I do know she has put all of these companies on the map, from Scrub Daddy to Squatty Potty. These companies have incredible consumer products. Now, she delivers.
Sam Parr
said it's funny
Julia Cheek
so
Shaan Puri
so you do
Julia Cheek
I'm telling you, I think it seems to be... actually, I don't have one, but it does seem very popular. Yeah, apparently.
Shaan Puri
So, okay, Everly, I have a question for you. How do you actually administer the test?
Julia Cheek
on hand
Sam Parr
one more question about shark tick no one on shark tick how much traffic did your did your site get
Shaan Puri
oh yeah
Julia Cheek
so we got
Shaan Puri
this is back 3 years ago
Julia Cheek
it was it was november we aired it
Sam Parr
better than now because there's more oh yeah tv more
Julia Cheek
Than right. It aired the night before Cyber Monday. It was Thanksgiving weekend; it couldn't have been a better day. Although my poor team, they were wonderful. They canceled all their Thanksgivings. It was a lot of work, but we got about 30 times our normal traffic. We had an interesting experience. We didn't have this tremendous spike the night of in terms of purchases, but we ended up doing about **$1,000,000** in sales, which at the time was a tremendously large number for us in like the four days after.
Shaan Puri
right
Julia Cheek
The show... so there's been a little bit of this interesting thing for us that I haven't heard many other companies mention. We doubled, like, we doubled in that week on a run rate standpoint. Then we continued doubling the next month, and we never had that decline.
Sam Parr
right
Julia Cheek
But we didn't have this spike in like the 3-hour period that we aired. Yeah, we had a lot of traffic. I think it was like 1,000,000.
Sam Parr
a 1000000 unique studios yeah
Julia Cheek
so and we did I mean we had to I mean at the time we were not set up for that scale now we
Sam Parr
don't even have to think
Julia Cheek
We've always been on Stripe, not WooCommerce or Shopify.
Shaan Puri
bigcommerce we've
Julia Cheek
built we've built on it now and like totally customized it
Shaan Puri
something else it's not
Julia Cheek
I know, but it's one of the big ones that actually I think we should have gone to Shopify, but we didn't. Gotcha. So I shouldn't name them because it's going to sound bad, right?
Shaan Puri
shout out to toby from shopify
Julia Cheek
yes exactly
Shaan Puri
I like to think he's listening
Julia Cheek
yeah so
Shaan Puri
might be we're trying to get him on
Julia Cheek
I was gonna say that valuation right
Shaan Puri
yeah that value so he also streams on twitch great guy
Julia Cheek
Oh, so yeah, we saw a really good traffic increase, but it was a very different pattern. Lori warned us about that. She said some companies sell out immediately, while others experience a slow burn. That was the case for us, but we did not crash, which was essential.