My Advice For Netflix's Tinder Swindler

Shaan Puri

Did you watch the tinder slender

Sam Parr

no but I saw your picture with it so what's the what's the like the the okay

Shaan Puri

so you guys don't okay so here's here's what happened it's it's kind of an amazing thing there's a guy so the document it's a documentary about this guy who goes on tinder and his tinder profile looks like you know he's kinda like a normal ish looking guy but he's like clearly living a cool lifestyle like lots of travel in different climates kind of wearing very nice clothes that's his profile alright so girls swipe right on him and they start chatting with him and he he basically what he ended up doing was he ended up conning women out of money and it was like a ponzi scheme so what he would do is he would meet a woman on tinder take her out on a date kind of wine and diner make it look like he's this baller of a guy and he you know is just like like a prince out of a fairy tale he just loves her the average looking girl who has average job just from an average city and then all of a sudden he's like come on my private jet and come do this with me and they go together and there she's like oh my god it's all happening I am that princess that he picked and he cares for and so he he starts talking to him and his backstory is that he his dad owns a diamond company and he's the son of a billionaire and if you Google you see that this guy is a son of a billionaire so he kind of like had created this profile around that and and then you know sure enough a month in he's like hey you know like he he's he's like oh you know he sends a picture of his body he's always with a bodyguard he's like my bodyguard got attacked oh my god and then she's like oh my god is he okay he's like yeah but you know they're telling me I can't use my credit cards anymore because they're tracking my location you know like these are our enemies for our company the diamond business is a ruthless business and he's like can I borrow your credit card for the time being while I you know because I can't use mine yet and she's like okay and he's like cool just make sure you get your limits raised because like I have business meetings and all this stuff so these women end up going like a 150 $200,000 in debt as he mhmm racks up credit card debt then he's like hey go get a quick loan and send me the money I need it because you know my enemies are after me and he's like my enemies are after me and so you the documentaries the first half of the documentaries is women talking about how they fell in love and the second half is like the how they got conned basically and he's like a ponzi scheme so he's he'd fall in love with 1 woman or he he'd get them to fall in love with him get them to start giving him money and credit cards he'd be using that to wine and dine the next woman and then he would be doing this with multiple women at once telling them all the same things and then he was living this like extravagant lifestyle on all these women's dime and and then you know so that's that okay that's the core of the movie quick reaction to that then I'm gonna tell you some other stuff

Sam Parr

well what happened to him so how does this end

Shaan Puri

It ends with him getting exposed. So the women are like, "Oh my God!" They go to the credit card company and say, "Look, I have to be honest. My kind of boyfriend, you know, or I don't know what's going on. This is the guy. He's tricking me." They ask, "Can we see a picture of the guy?" She shows a picture on her phone, and the two agents from, like, Amex or whatever just look at each other and say, "It's him!" Then she's like, "What?" They respond, "We've been after this guy for years. He does this with tons of women." They're like, "There are other women he's doing this to." So it's like they feel cheated on and conned. But technically, what happens is...

Sam Parr

is he breaking the law

Shaan Puri

He's not breaking the law. They are giving him money; they're sending him money willingly. They are giving him their credit card and calling the credit card company, saying, "No, no, it's me. Can you please raise my limits? Yes, I'm traveling. I'm in Ibiza right now." So they're like, you know, you're in kind of a sticky spot. You can't really say he stole it; you clearly gave it to him. In fact, you kind of committed fraud, but like, well, whatever, we'll leave that aside. But yeah, you do owe this money. This is not, you know, a stolen credit card. So anyways, how much did...

Sam Parr

he get

Shaan Puri

He ends up getting a 15-month sentence, but not even for this; it's for something else that he did, which is associated with this. He serves 5 months and then gets off free. He's out there living his life, has a new model girlfriend, and lives somewhere else. The girls kind of expose him in the press because they were like, "Okay, look, law enforcement is not doing anything, or it's going to take too long. He's going to keep doing this." In the meantime, they go to the Norwegian press, where they're from, and they expose it. Netflix turns it into a documentary. So, the guy is still out there. One of the things in the movie is that he goes to a plastic surgeon and says, "I want my eyes, cheekbones, chin, and mouth all restructured." The surgeon responds, "I'm not going to do this; only a criminal would want this surgery." So, he's trying to change his face to keep it going, but he can't change his face. Now, he's kind of like public enemy number one. A lot of people who watch this are saying, "Dude, these girls are stupid. You were just with him for the money, and then he conned you for the money. You got what you deserved." So, the girls are getting a ton of flack for it.

Sam Parr

is really crazy that's that's that's dumb

Shaan Puri

but I was just thinking what waste of talent by this guy yeah

Sam Parr

That's pretty amazing. He's like energy. It's funny, Leonardo DiCaprio played the same character in "Catch Me If You Can," and it was awesome.

Shaan Puri

yeah he's became like a hero

Sam Parr

when I see this guy I wanna punch him in the face

Shaan Puri

Yeah, exactly. That was the problem. It was a documentary instead of a movie about the con man himself, where you started to fall in love with the smooth guy.

Sam Parr

Yeah, if a different, lovable character... if like Matt Damon played him, I would be all about it. Yeah, but that's pretty wild.

Shaan Puri

you gotta watch the thing

Sam Parr

it's super punchable face this guy

Shaan Puri

yeah and the memes are just amazing around well

Sam Parr

I saw the meme with you with your face on it

Shaan Puri

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I had somebody, I was like, "Hey, Photoshop my head onto this photo where it looks like I'm with the guy." And I just tweeted out, like, "Oh, I'm with my sister's new boyfriend."

Sam Parr

is he american

Shaan Puri

no this guy is israeli

Sam Parr

Dude, screw this guy, man. I'm happy they made a documentary about him. How did he get all the... so he's in a private jet in a bunch of these pictures. How did he get that?

Shaan Puri

because he's using the previous woman's money to fund his his lifestyle

Sam Parr

so he would fly private

Shaan Puri

Yeah, so he's actually flying private. I don't know if it's all the time, but at least some of the time. It was just really wild. In fact, a lot of the numbers don't make sense. He must have been running this on like tons of women at once to fund this lifestyle. For example, he would con this woman out of $80, but $80 only funds like one month of this lifestyle, you know? That's not very long. So he must have had a lot of people at the same time, or the documentary is a little inaccurate. I don't know, but how...

Sam Parr

much money did he get

Shaan Puri

They said that he had conned women out of **$1,000,000** over time. They didn't say exactly how much; they don't know how much of it was theirs. But I just feel like he did this all wrong. If you're going to put in all this effort, you gotta be more intelligent, right? Okay, what could he have done? He could've just married rich. He could've just seemed rich, married rich, and divorced to take half. That would've worked way better. You know, put more wood behind fewer arrows here. He could've just gone after one very wealthy person if he really wanted to do this. That's my first critique of him. My second critique is, bro, all this money just to party? Partying is exhausting! What, he just wanted to fly private and go to these clubs and do table service? You know, you couldn't pay me to do that. I don't want to travel.

Sam Parr

you gotta diversify your assets dawg

Shaan Puri

Yeah, you should've owned some crypto. Like, buy something. Buy a home. Do you see something with this money? You just blew all the money on overpriced, you know, bottle service at the club. Like, wow. Alright, that's critique number 2. Number 3: Go B2B, bro. Corporate swindling would've worked way better. So, you know, he could have been like, "You heard about the guy who just started sending invoices to Microsoft and Apple and stuff? He just got paid like a million dollars just by sending bogus invoices." He was just sending an invoice to accounts payable or whatever, and then they would just pay some of the invoices.

Sam Parr

but he just do it like like [email protected] yeah

Shaan Puri

He was like, "Hey, you know, this is for the blah blah blah." And then they went back and they're like, "What the hell is this? Who is this vendor that we paid $1,100,000 to this year?" Like, nobody knows who this is.

Sam Parr

I don't think that's illegal either

Shaan Puri

I think it is because he was like, you know, well, whatever. They were going back after him. Now, these companies have a lot of money, so that's the downside of going B2B. But I feel like there could have been a B2B way of doing this. He should have actually just started a diamond company. He could have made a lot more money. If you're this good at getting women's emotions tied up in your lifestyle, just actually sell the diamonds. It would have worked. Use their money to fund a diamond company. That actually could have worked. This guy needs to be in the Facebook Ad Manager instead of Tinder. Yeah, that's my take.

Sam Parr

That's my critique for this guy. I'm looking at him now. All those women he scammed, a lot of them look like models. He was killing it! Also, like, you forgot the other option, which is to just marry one of these ladies if they're rich enough. If they're these beautiful women who could wire him $200K, like, I don't know, man. Bro, maybe you gotta keep her.

Shaan Puri

Well, in this case, he was telling him to take a kind of collateralized loan or a payday loan, which had super high interest. He said, "Don't worry, I'm going to wire your money back in four days." Then he would not wire them back. They would ask, "Hey, did you wire the money?" and he would respond, "Oh, sorry, the bank was closed." Then he would show them a statement, saying, "Oh, I sent it. It should arrive in a couple of days." When they followed up, saying, "Hey, it hasn't arrived yet. What's going on? The interest is building up on this flash loan you had me take," he would say, "Oh my god, let me call the bank." Another two days would go by, and he would say, "I called the bank. They said this thing got frozen. I have to deal with this. I'm so sorry. Here, I'm going to send you one of my watches in the meantime. You can just sell it. This watch is worth $100,000." He would send a fake watch and buy time doing that. These women didn't have the money, but I think he could have totally gone for a richer woman and said, "You know what, baby? I love you. I'm not going to make you sign a prenup. You know me, I'm a billionaire. I come from this lineage, but my dad says to sign a prenup. I'm not going to do it." Then she would feel a little bit of pressure and think, "Okay, I guess I can't really ask him for a prenup anyway. This guy's richer than me. Alright, I guess I also won't." That would have been a more effective con.

Sam Parr

if this guy were in jail do you think he'd be popular or hated

Shaan Puri

I think popular sadly

Sam Parr

you think popular

Shaan Puri

I think I think popular

Sam Parr

I could see this going either way man I could see this

Sam Parr

I could see this going either way I think like

Shaan Puri

dude the swindler in prison

Sam Parr

Would he like... Alright, so Bernie Madoff, I heard in prison was like a god. I get that, you know? Like, he could teach people how to corner the chocolate chip or the hot chocolate market in prison. He could dominate the commissary and he could teach you about markets. I get that. Also, it wasn't a violent crime, so no children or women were hurt. Like, this guy is... I could see this guy being unpopped. I don't know, that's a good question.

Shaan Puri

He's got kind of like a **douchebag aura** to him, so that's the problem. That's where he's going to get in trouble. But, bro, the swindler would do well in prison.

Sam Parr

he's a good buddy I guess I'll watch it how many episodes was it

Shaan Puri

he's not in prison he's out and about he's he's living a nice life right now

Sam Parr

Oh, screw this guy, man. He sold a couple of $1,000,000. Yeah, I think about... I think this documentary is good punishment, though. That's fair. I'm okay with you not serving time, and you have this documentary to hurt you.

Shaan Puri

Our buddy Jack Butcher pointed something out that I was like, "Oh, wait a minute, that's true." He's like, "Yo, Netflix is gonna make a lot of money off this documentary. Pay off these women's debts." They have like a GoFundMe going. It's like, "Yo, Netflix, you need to pay off this woman's $200,000 debt."

Sam Parr

that's true

Shaan Puri

You did well on this documentary. So that's the real call out here: Netflix, cancel Netflix if they don't pay off these women's debts.

Sam Parr

that's a no brainer you don't think they're going to

Shaan Puri

Well, nobody said anything. These women are doing interviews everywhere. There's a GoFundMe out there. I feel like they could've said something, or they're just, you know...

Sam Parr

swindling people in thing that

Shaan Puri

You know, we didn't make a lot of money off this, but Netflix actually generously agreed to pay off the debt. You know, blah blah blah. I feel like that story should have come out. If they did it, then fire your PR person, Netflix, or pay off these debts.