How Celebrities Have Made Billions off Their Names | My First Million #210
Race Cars, Gun Ranges, and Celebrity Businesses - August 18, 2021 (over 3 years ago) • 59:27
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Shaan Puri | You've been in the market for 21 years, and when you look at that account and see it going up, you're going to realize the value of investing. That's, you know, the true path to wealth.
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Sam Parr | alright we're live what's going on how is steph | |
Shaan Puri | nice fancy pants background | |
Sam Parr | Yeah, I'm in Mechanism. It's a fancy... it's a fancy pants office. Do you know what Mechanism is?
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Shaan Puri | I've heard of it. That's the agency guy who's a friend of yours. I kind of know him a little bit now.
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Sam Parr |
Yeah, they have an agency, maybe a 200-person agency. And as you do with agencies, they've got very fancy offices in SoHo in New York. Right now, no one is here, and I'm in the fancy office here right now.
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Shaan Puri | Alright, good stuff! Yeah, you missed Steph; she was great as always. She had a bunch of ideas.
It's funny, like we've had Abreu be kind of like our version of Jamie. Whichever one has Jamie, we've had Abreu. Now we have Dan, and you get a sense because at the end of every episode we go, "Oh Dan, how was it? Hey Abreu, how'd we do?"
I feel like they both really keyed in on the same thing. I don't know if listeners care in the same way, but the more random tangents we go on, they kind of love it but also kind of hate it at the same time.
Whereas when Steph comes on, it's like, "Here are 5 ideas. We're going to do idea 1, then 2, then 3, then 4, then 5." What a jam-packed episode of ideas!
You know, me and her don't have the same chemistry that you and I have, like just being able to go on random tangents or just kind of bullshit a little bit. So, it's more packed with info but less packed with detours. I don't know if that's good or bad, but it's packed with info.
I think Dan definitely liked it, and I think a lot of people will like it. But it's interesting to me how that goes.
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Sam Parr | Yeah, and I've also noticed that a lot of the things I like, the things that I think are going to be good, tend not to be good. Conversely, if I think something is going to be bad, it tends to be bad. That's what I've noticed with content.
But the reason I wasn't here is to tell you this funny story about Twitter. So, four months ago, or maybe three months ago, I tweeted out that I wanted to go drive race cars. One of my 2021 resolutions was to do more adventurous stuff. I wanted to take a sniper class, go hunting, and kill what I've eaten, which I've never done before. I also wanted to do a cross-country trip, and I did that. Lastly, I wanted to learn how to drive race cars.
So, I tweeted out that I wanted to go to a driving class. A professional NASCAR driver named Parker reached out to me on Twitter. So, me and Jack Butcher, who's a buddy of ours, drove two hours outside of New York to Connecticut to take this class. It was $2,500 at a place called Skip Barber Driving School.
We met the owner of the class, and it's a business that does about $15 million in revenue. It's crazy and interesting. The owner is an ex-cop, a New York cop, who said, "Just try it because I don't work as a cop anymore." He turned it into a thriving business. He told me his goal is to hit $100 million in revenue in the next five years.
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Shaan Puri | off this one track or like he has many of these | |
Sam Parr | So here's what they do. It's called **Skip Barber Racing**. It's a famous brand that originated in the sixties. He bought it out of bankruptcy; I imagine he paid like low hundreds of thousands of dollars for the brand name.
It's basically a website where they get leads. So, Skip Barber, if you're into cars, is like a famous racing school. He owns the website, and people go and submit leads for where they want to go. They find tracks throughout the country and rent like 20 days at the track.
They show up with their tractor trailer filled with like 20 Mustangs that people can drive. Then, it's like a traveling circus; they go from place to place. It's pretty interesting.
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Shaan Puri | what'd you drive | |
Sam Parr | it's by the | |
Shaan Puri | way I know nothing about cars so you're gonna say something and I'm gonna | |
Sam Parr | be like | |
Shaan Puri | oh cool no I don't know not even gonna know | |
Sam Parr | It looks like a Mustang, but it's a race car. There are no seats; you're locked in. You wear a helmet, and you're locked in. What do you...? | |
Shaan Puri | mean like those seats | |
Sam Parr |
There's only a driving seat inside. It's like... it *is* a race car. There's a roll bar, there's no AC or radio or anything like that, but it looks like a Mustang from the outside. Anyway, that's where it was. Crazy fascinating business.
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Shaan Puri | That's pretty cool. While you were saying that, you mentioned something about him having been a cop. We had talked about the retired mafia tours in New York business.
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Sam Parr | I'm going on it | |
Shaan Puri | A great idea! If you didn't hear that episode, it's basically about a retired cop in New York who takes you on a walking tour of the city to different areas where the mafia families live. He kind of tells you stories. It's like we all enjoy crime TV shows, and this is basically a crime TV walking tour.
So, you get to hear all these stories. I guess you're going on it—that's cool! We had said he had done over $1,000,000 in sales on his Airbnb experience doing this, which is pretty freaking awesome.
Now, this thing you're talking about, I think there could be a really cool version of that that someone could create. It would be like a cops and robbers experience—a cop chase, basically. They could have a driver who knows what they're doing as the main driver, and then you get to be in a cop car.
They could just take some junk cop car, and you get to drive that thing. You would be talking on the little radio, trying to get the suspect's license plate. It's basically like a controlled simulation of a cop chase. You go after them, spin them out, and then you get out of the car and arrest them at the end.
I feel like that would just be super fun, and a lot of people would pay for that—especially if they could get a video of it! | |
Sam Parr |
I paid $25,100 for this. I think I paid an additional $300 for a...
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Shaan Puri | video for the videos | |
Sam Parr | Of course! Yeah, man, it was awesome. It's fun to do this stuff, to get out of our comfort zone and do exciting things. So that's where I was.
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Shaan Puri |
Nice, okay. I love that. Alright, let's do some ideas. I have an idea that's kind of related to this.
So, I was watching **Dana White**, who's the president of the UFC, and he was doing this YouTube video...
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Sam Parr | he's like check out boys | |
Shaan Puri | No, not that one. There was one who just goes, "Check out how sick my hotel room is right now in Houston! Did you see this?" | |
Sam Parr | yep and he had go | |
Shaan Puri | no no go ahead describe it and I'll tell you the part part | |
Sam Parr | If I remember correctly, he had a movie theater in his hotel room. I think he had a full, or no, half-size basketball court. Yep.
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Shaan Puri | That was painted like the Rockets basketball court, with the official scoreboard on the wall and stuff.
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Sam Parr | and and what else did he have | |
Shaan Puri |
He had a bunch of stuff. He had like a full gym - you know how hotels have a gym? His hotel room had a gym, which is kind of amazing. And then he's got like whatever cool bed, bathroom, full steam room. But the thing I thought was interesting, he goes, "Check this out," and he grabs this huge rifle off the wall. It was like a rifle and shotgun sitting next to each other, and he was like, "This is cool. It's like a virtual shooting range."
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Sam Parr | and | |
Shaan Puri | Then he, like, panned over. They went over it real quick, so I couldn't even really see what it was. But in my head, I just immediately thought of those golf driving ranges that are basically a green screen. You swing a real club and hit a real ball into the green screen, and it simulates where it would have landed if you were on a real golf course. Those are semi-popular.
So, he's got this rifle off the wall, and I started thinking, "Oh, that's kind of cool." If you've ever held a real gun, it feels totally different than, you know, the Duck Hunt gun or an arcade gun. A real gun has weight to it; it has recoil when you fire it.
So, I was thinking somebody could probably build a high-end version of this niche business, which is basically virtual shooting ranges. You have either a screen, like a green screen, or a plasma, or a big flat-screen TV. Then you give them something that feels like a real gun, but it's a digitally enabled device, so you don't have to have bullets and go outside to do all that stuff.
I feel like somebody could build a pretty unique business doing that, providing it either to bars or even for at-home setups or corporate events.
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Sam Parr | that's a fantastic idea have you ever been to a indoor shooting range | |
Shaan Puri | indoor shooting oh like where the target's there and you have the earmuffs on or whatever no | |
Sam Parr | I've just got to say, it's miserable. I've only done outdoor shooting, and the outdoor shooting ranges are fun. However, the indoor shooting range is miserable.
It has lights like a hospital, and it is so loud. If you've ever been next to an AR-15 or something like that, you know how huge the sound is when it shoots. It rattles your neighbor. You're standing right next to someone, and it's not just loud; it shakes me.
It's a miserable, unsafe, horrible experience. I would much rather do something fun like this over that. | |
Shaan Puri | Yeah, so I feel like because it's digital, you can do fun stuff. Right?
So when I went to shoot a gun for the first time, I'm not into that. My brother, my brother-in-law is. We went, and it's like you're outside. It was kind of cold. You're shooting these paper targets that don't move. You have to stand still. Every five minutes, you have to stop and reload the gun. It takes time. There are a lot of breaks in between the action. The action is fun, but there's a lot of other stuff going on. It was uncomfortable.
And I get that, like, you know, real man stuff is not supposed to be comfortable, but guess what? People like comfort.
So I think what you could do instead is basically make a souped-up version of the Deer Hunter game. You get a digital gun, but it feels like the weight of a real rifle or a real shotgun. Then you have a digital scenario.
Right? You wanted to do a sniper class or, I don't even know what you said, like a psychopath. But you probably want to simulate actually sniping someone in some situation where you can only see part of their head, and they're really far away or whatever.
So you could do that instead of just a paper target. I think this could be a good idea. I'm sure something like this exists, but it's all about turning it into a business in a box or a traveling circus, like you said, and coming up with a model that productizes this better. | |
Sam Parr |
I think it's a great idea, and I would love to attend.
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Shaan Puri | alright let's do another one you you pick either one for yours or one for mine | |
Sam Parr | This is a little bit less of an idea but more of an experience that I had.
Last week, I went down to Nashville. I had an issue a few weeks ago where I had a car problem, so I had to leave my car at the dealer in Nashville. I went to go pick it up and started shooting the shit with the salesperson.
He told me this is the Mercedes-Benz Music City dealership. They sold 200 cars in June. Does that boggle your mind? I never really thought about how many cars that is. That's $20,000,000 in car sales right in one month. That's crazy to me!
So, I went and looked at what the figures were for how many cars are sold from June to January. I would think January or February would be a slow month, but it's mostly pretty steady. It's like 1,600,000 on a high month and 1,200,000 on a low month. It's not crazy different.
If you assume that the average sale price was $100,000, and then you assume that they did $20,000,000 for six of the months and $15,000,000 for the other six months, that's $210,000,000 in one location.
Then, I was talking with the guys who ran the dealership. They told me that they can expect to make 10 to 15% profit on that. Does that kind of boggle your mind that one location could do that much in sales?
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Shaan Puri | Did you feel like it was an outlier location? Like killer, killer real estate or something like that?
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Sam Parr |
It's a Mercedes dealer in Nashville, and there are three in the city. So, did I think that's an outlier in one sense? Yes, because they're selling expensive cars. It's not like a Hyundai where you're selling $20,000 cars. But it's in Nashville, and there are probably 10 to 20 cities in America that are equally booming as Nashville. So, outlier in one sense? Yes, but not a crazy outlier.
I got interested in this, and there's this amazing website called Open Secrets. Have you heard of that?
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Shaan Puri | I've heard of it, but I've never gone to it. What do you actually do there? It's like really WikiLeaks or something?
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Sam Parr | I go to it all the time, and here's why. If you go to it, you can visit a site called **Open Secrets**—maybe it's opensecrets.org. I don't know if it's legal or customary, but if you are a senator, a member of the House of Representatives, or hold a certain type of office in America, they typically disclose their income taxes and their net worth.
You can browse through and see how much money they have in different bank accounts, how much they have in various stocks, and how they value their privately held businesses. It's incredibly fascinating.
For example, if you Google "Open Secrets net worth senators," you'll see a list of the richest senators. It will tell you where their money is, and you can click on it. In some cases, if it's from the '90s, for example, if you look at George Bush's net worth, you could actually see it's still a handwritten W-2.
It's incredibly fascinating, and I browse through there quite a bit because I think it's really fun. Who cares if they're politicians or not? What's interesting is that they are incredibly wealthy, and you can see how people allocate money, where their income comes from, and how that works.
I noticed that there were quite a few people who made money through car dealerships in Congress. I actually made a list of them. The first one is **Vernon Buchanan**, a congressman from Florida, with a net worth of **$157 million**. Where does his money come from? **Buchanan Automotive Group**, where they sell new and used cars in Florida. He assigned **$50 million**...
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Shaan Puri | Hold on, I'm just going through this list. I did not realize there are this many senators that are this wealthy.
So first, the funny thing is there's the richest and the poorest. On the top side, you have Mark Warner, the richest senator. He's in Virginia, I think, with a net worth of $214,000,000.
On the other hand, the poorest senator is Al C. Hastings from Florida, with a negative net worth of $7,500,000. This guy is in a hole of debt.
And you know, the lowest one that is not negative... let's see.
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Sam Parr | probably like a $100 or something like a pete buttigieg or something | |
Shaan Puri | I'm exporting all these csvs this is gonna be great go go on sorry | |
Sam Parr | Just go. I went and looked at some of the Congress folks that were rich. There was Vernon Buchanan; he owns an automotive group. He assigned around $35,000,000 of his net worth—sorry, almost $100,000,000 of his net worth—to car dealerships.
Ron Williams from Texas has a net worth of $67,000,000. He had close to $10,000,000 because he is part owner of a Chrysler, Dodge, and Jeep business. John Campbell, with a net worth of $23,000,000, owns franchises for Nissan, Mazda, Ford, Saturn, and Saab. Mike Kelly has a net worth of $20,000,000 and assigned at least $5,000,000 for his car dealerships.
It was incredibly fascinating, so I dug even deeper. This Nashville dealer—you want to know who the co-owner is? Nick Saban, the coach from the University of Alabama. He owns a bunch of them; he owns three, four, or five.
It's crazy fascinating to me about car dealers, and I was just so curious as to how the rest of them do. So, I did a little bit more research and read different interviews with car dealers. Typically, they make about 5-10% in profit, but the secret is that they have to make most of their money from service and parts because that's where the big margin is.
There's actually a lot of ways that you can test this. You can do loads of test advertising, and they kind of do this like MVP-style advertising where they'll advertise in different places, see which cars sell, and then become a dealer of that particular car. I just thought it was so fascinating how these car dealerships work. Have you ever—do you know anything about the business?
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Shaan Puri | personal you're on fire right now | |
Sam Parr | so | |
Shaan Puri | I just gotta give you a little bit of credit. You're on fire right now! I don't know if this is Jake the researcher or Sam the deal hunter, but good job. I love this! I love open secrets, I love the senator thing, and I love the car dealership thing.
Alright, so let me just put that on the table. Have I thought about this? No, but it's been hidden in plain sight. I grew up in Colorado, and John Elway always had dealerships. It was like everywhere, and I just never really thought about it. But clearly, the guy was making bank on these dealerships; otherwise, he wouldn't be spending so much time and energy doing all these little marketing meet-and-greets at his dealerships.
That combo of a local hero and a car dealership has just worked for a long time. Like in the movie *Little Giants*, I think the guy had his money too. He's like a local football star and a car dealer. It's just a formula that works.
I know that there's the guy who gets a lot of press whenever the Toronto Raptors do well. They have this superfan, this Sikh Indian guy who shows up at courtside for every game: Nav Bhatia.
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Sam Parr | I actually have him listed here. He started as a Hyundai salesperson and eventually began owning a car dealership. He claims his net worth is **$50,000,000**. | |
Shaan Puri |
Exactly. He spends all of his money traveling with the team and buying courtside tickets to every single game. This guy's like a maniac - he goes to every single game, and he has for like 20 years, courtside. He's cheering like crazy.
Yeah, he started as a salesman, you're right. Okay, so this is kind of interesting. I want to share with you a couple of things that I can add to this. Have you ever heard of...
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Sam Parr | And by the way, if you scroll down, you can see all the examples I have of people who have made at least $1,000,000,000 to car dealers. Do you see that?
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Shaan Puri | This is pretty impressive. So, the Benson family, they own the Saints, Penske, and Wayne Huizenga. You love that guy! He started what? AutoNation? Yeah, and he owns the Miami Dolphins. That guy's a baller! We should feature him.
You know a lot about him. Mark Wahlberg has one, Michael Jordan has one. Alright, that's pretty interesting. I didn't really realize that this is like one of those franchises that you kind of want to own. I wonder if that's changing.
So, in my head, I'm like, "Car dealer? Isn't this dead?" Aren't car sales just moving online? Then you have platforms like Carvana that's become like a $7,000,000,000 company for buying cars online. So, definitely, some of buying cars is moving online, but not all.
I actually ran into this company called Modal. Have you ever heard of Modal?
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Sam Parr | tell me about it | |
Shaan Puri | The URL is just **modalup.com**. A buddy of mine, **Samir Bala**, this great guy, was going to do a startup. Then I checked his LinkedIn and saw, "Oh, I'm COO of Modal now." I was like, "What the heck?" He took a job, and I thought, "If this guy took a job, this must be an interesting business." He wouldn't join a company unless he thought it had really good prospects, and I trust his judgment.
So, I should have invested. I asked him to invest; he even made room for me. Then I got cold feet at the last minute for some stupid reason. But basically, I think this is a great business. What they do is they made it so that any dealer can sell cars digitally and online. It's like **Shopify** for car dealers in a way.
It creates a website, a checkout button, and a buy button that you can just send customers to who want to buy from you. It also automates all the workflow. When you go to buy a car, you're going to end up sitting in the dealership for like an hour because of the paperwork. If you're doing a loan or a lease, you have to do even more paperwork. You have to collect all these signatures and get everything to get the title in your name.
These guys basically turned all that into software. They were growing really well, going to car dealerships and getting them to adopt this software so they could keep up and compete with the online-only platforms. It's like, "Hey, don't stay stuck in the brick-and-mortar ways. Yes, you're a car dealership, but you should allow some digitalization. Digitalize your workflow and let your customers check out online and buy products."
What they claim is that they can boost sales by like 30-35% or something like that, and it shortens the cycle time. Usually, people take quite a while to look through stuff, and they speed up the purchase time as well. So, I think this is a pretty cool business that's going to be quite big.
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Sam Parr | I’m on board with all the digital stuff. I was just fascinated by the brick-and-mortar aspect, and it's still growing like crazy. In fact, there's loads of data on this because I didn't realize how impactful cars are. I mean, of course, we all have them, but I didn't realize how they are, in a sense, minor or maybe major players in our country and how we even develop laws, things like that.
So, there's all this data that you can go and learn about. The average car dealership, like a physical dealer, the average one in the last year, 2021, did $36,000,000 in sales in just the first six months. We sell something like...
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Shaan Puri | Yeah, but that's like GMV. That's like car sales. So, you know, you said 10 to 15% maybe is their margin on that. So that's correct: $3,000,000, you know, for the whole dealership. | |
Sam Parr |
It's still astounding. Then, if you can also go and look at another website, you can go to ProPublica. There, you can see which lobbies give money to the government for different laws. Car dealers or the car lobby, which are... there's like 8 of them, they give substantial amounts of money.
Anyway, that's my segment on car dealers and cars. Pretty astounding. I was shocked by it. We can move on.
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Shaan Puri |
You know what's cool, by the way? Tesla's no-dealership model. Such a bold move by them to not have any dealers, and in doing so, they basically kept a lot of the profit for themselves and went direct to consumer. They were sort of the first direct-to-consumer car company that exists. So, good job by Elon [Musk].
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Sam Parr | Yeah, and I could see that taking off. But the market is massive. Not everyone is going to do the same thing, so there's room for everyone. | |
Shaan Puri |
So, Al's always holding it down for blue-collar America. I love it. You know, in my mind, it's just two coasts squished together with some stuff in the middle, and you're like, "No, no, the middle is... there's a lot of beautiful stuff in the middle, and it's not all just going away and becoming like fancy tech right away."
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Sam Parr | not yet at least | |
Shaan Puri | alright let's do some more so look at my topics here and tell me which one's interesting | |
Sam Parr | spoonflower is one of the most interesting things I've seen lately | |
Shaan Puri | had you heard of this before spoonflower | |
Sam Parr | no no | |
Shaan Puri | So, check it out. I don't even know the URL; I think it's **spoonflower.com**. They sold for **$225,000,000**. I got familiar with this because, for a clothing company that we were working on, we needed to look at patterns. I was like, "Where do you find patterns online?" You can find patterns in many places, but one place was Spoonflower.
This is basically a marketplace where you have, on one side, designers who come up with, like, a nice floral pattern or sunflower pattern. Then you could take those. For example, I think your mother-in-law is doing a pillow business. She could go on Spoonflower and say, "Oh, I really like this fabric swatch pattern. I want to buy this pattern and turn it into pillows. I want to buy this pattern and turn it into wallpaper."
You can use it for all the things that patterns go on: wallpaper, mats, pillowcases, blankets, curtains, and stuff like that. It's this niche marketplace that most people haven't even heard of. Then you go there, and you see it, and you're like, "Oh, this makes total sense."
So, they sold for **$225,000,000** to Shutterfly. I thought it was really cool—just like this niche product that has been around for a while that sold. I also wanted to share a growth hack, but what's your kind of first reaction to this?
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Sam Parr |
I think this is brilliant. I'm looking at it right now, and there are a few reasons why I like this company:
1. I believe it's based in North Carolina. I like things that are not in Silicon Valley, not in the heart of technology hubs. I think that's amazing.
2. There are so many wonderful things about this business. It's just... I mean, it's a win-win-win type of company where:
- You help people make money
- You help people get what they want
- The company, Spoonflower, makes a little bit of cash
I'm into it.
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Shaan Puri | right and it was started in 2008 so it's been around for a while it's one of these that like like most marketplaces marketplaces are extremely valuable when you get them to work but they can take time to work because you have to get that you have to keep cranking the wheel of supply and demand to get it to to work you need enough designs and enough designers and enough buyers and then you have to keep like do a lot of manual stuff to make that work so one thing I liked this guy who listens to the pod adam adam kiesling I think is is how you say his name he was talking about this deal and he was pointing out this like this method that they used to grow and he's like I'll just share with you a couple of things that he pointed out so spoonflower 3,300,000 unique artists 4000 new designs uploaded on average every day so that's like pretty crazy scale and what they did was they would do design challenges and so spoonflower would host a design challenge and then the top 50 voted popular voted designs would get featured as the winner circle and it would get to the top of the website and then if you go to the website you click like you know oh let me see the best halloween designs that would drive like 95% of the sales to a lot of the creators so it was kinda feast or famine you would you take your shot to get noticed but if you got noticed you would get a ton of inbound sales for for those for those contests right and it might just be like a 1000 or 2000 people participating in each one and so I thought this is a pretty smart model of how they bootstrap the marketplace so they're like alright we need buyers want content for halloween how do I get a bunch of designers to make the right halloween content and make it all make a bunch of new ideas that are unique you can only find them on spoonflower I'll host this contest and the contest winners get like I don't know 100 of dollars 1,000 of dollars it doesn't have to be too much money and they get exposure through that through that process and then he was adam was sharing that like you know food 52 that they used to do the same thing when they were seeding their marketplace of recipes right they had chefs uploading recipes and then people coming to download them they would they created a contest called your best recipe using fresh mozzarella right so give me your best mozzarella recipe and then you know they would get whole foods to sponsor it and get a gift card and then they're like the the grand prize is $1,000 right and so they would keep doing these contests around things that people were searching for in order to seed the marketplace with the right content so I thought that was a cool learning as well from this | |
Sam Parr |
This is amazing, and what's even more interesting, or as interesting, is that Shutterfly bought them. I forgot about Shutterfly. I just looked them up... Shutterfly, I think they got... did they get delisted? They were public. They had a $2 billion market cap and like close to $2 billion in revenue.
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Shaan Puri | Right, and so one, that's a complicated... that's a crazy space. The show that Shutterfly is in, so you know, good luck to them on that one.
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Sam Parr | Spoonflower's badass! Can I tell you something that surprised me? So, the other day, Rihanna was named a billionaire. That's pretty amazing, right?
Yeah, I think that's amazing. So, I got curious. I started working with Jake, and I was like, "What other celebrities have gotten rich in ways that I wouldn't really have known right away?" It kind of got... I kind of got... | |
Shaan Puri | This YouTube segment is about "10 celebrities that got rich not from their fame."
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Sam Parr | It was a little bit extended from their fame, but I'm going to give you six of them. So the first... you know who Jimmy Buffett is? You're not... you're not white, so you may not be into Jimmy Buffett.
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Shaan Puri | I've heard the name, but if you said, "Here are 5 old white guys," I would just... to the far right, I have no idea.
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Sam Parr | So, Jimmy Buffett... I don't even know how to explain him. White 60-year-olds who wear Tommy Bahama. Do you even know what that is?
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Shaan Puri | yes I know that one | |
Sam Parr | Okay, white 60-year-olds who wear Tommy Bahama love him. He's the guy who created "Cheeseburger in Paradise," that song.
He also had this album called "Margaritaville." It's all about the Caribbean, being on a boat, and living this like parrot-style life. I think that's what they call "parrot heads."
So, he's got Margaritaville, which is a subsidiary of Cheeseburger Holding Company, which is pretty funny. He has 30 restaurants, vacation clubs, hotels, a retirement village, and tequila. Collectively, the holdings do something like $2 billion a year in sales. Is that crazy?
Then you also probably don't know about this one. This isn't in your wheelhouse, but Dolly Parton... you know Dolly Parton?
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Shaan Puri | is that his girlfriend who is this | |
Sam Parr | you don't know who dolly parton is | |
Shaan Puri | again I've heard the name if you showed me 5 old white ladies I couldn't. Out dolly parton | |
Sam Parr | So, Dolly Parton was a famous country singer, but she did more than just country. Have you heard the song "I Will Always Love You" by Whitney Houston? Yes, she wrote that. She also wrote "9 to 5," which has been covered many times. She's just a hit maker.
You probably remember photos of her. She's probably close to her eighties now, in her seventies, but she's famous for having blonde hair and huge breasts. You definitely remember her. She has famous phrases like, "You wouldn't believe how much it costs to look this cheap."
But she's actually a great person, and she has...
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Shaan Puri | an empire great person well she's like | |
Sam Parr | Do you know? Well, she's known for her philanthropy and for doing good. She gives back to the community; she seems like a wonderful person.
It's kind of a joke that she looks cheap—that's like her joke, right? But it's estimated that she has a net worth of about $600,000,000.
I was driving to the Smokies recently, just two weeks ago, and I drove through Gatlinburg, Tennessee, which is a small town in the mountains of Tennessee. Right outside of that, she has a theme park. It's called Dollywood. Her name is Dolly Parton.
She has Dollywood; there are rides. It's a huge deal—it's amazing! Just imagine Six Flags, but it's all about Dolly Parton, and it's called Dollywood. It's amazing, don't you think?
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Shaan Puri |
You know, we're like 15 years away from "Paul World" in LA. It's the Paul brothers' version of Disney World. That's what's going to happen here. They are our Dolly Partons of our generation.
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Sam Parr | I'm shocked you've never heard of Dolly World... Dollywood! You've never heard of that? Dollywood!
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Shaan Puri | no no | |
Sam Parr |
It's a huge thing. It's very big, like it's... a mini Six Flags. It's not even a mini Six Flags, it's almost as big as Six Flags. People in the South - I'm from Missouri, I live in Tennessee, so I'm kinda southern - people in the South are obsessed with it. That's where you go on vacation. You go to Dollywood.
And then you actually go to a lot of different casinos in the South. You'll see Dolly Parton-themed casinos... it's crazy.
Alright, another one: Sammy Hagar. That doesn't ring a bell either to you, does it?
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Shaan Puri | no this is just a humiliate sean session | |
Sam Parr | God, that's so funny. Van Halen! Do you know what Van Halen is? I heard that, dude. Dude, you... | |
Shaan Puri | are so couldn't couldn't help a couldn't help a song if I if I wanted | |
Sam Parr |
Oh my God, that's so funny! Okay, so Sammy Hagar from Van Halen, he sold a tequila company for around $80,000,000. It was a tequila brand. I'll just tell you two quick ones... You don't know any of these people, it's all just like white basic people. Kate Hudson... you know Kate Hudson?
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Shaan Puri | I've done Kate Hudson, but I see the word "Fabletics" written here. What does she have to do with Fabletics?
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Sam Parr | she helped start it she was one of the co founders way | |
Shaan Puri | okay I didn't know that | |
Sam Parr |
Crazy, right? Your wife probably wears it. I mean, it's like... they sell fancy tights, right? 2020 revenue: **$500,000,000**. Wild. And then finally...
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Shaan Puri | jessica alba she owns 20% of it yeah I know jessica alba | |
Sam Parr |
Yeah, so 20% meaningful. And finally, Jessica Alba started or helped start The Honest Company. It just IPO'd. It's got a market cap north of $1 billion, I believe, and her stake is around $130 million. It's pretty amazing, right?
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Shaan Puri | I like it! Yeah, so what do you think is the best model?
What do we see here? We saw entertainment, like hotels, casinos, and amusement parks. Then we saw basically makeup companies, skincare companies, fragrance companies, and alcohol brands.
Which one do you like? Or do you think there's another one that celebrities are sort of leaving on the table?
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Sam Parr | Alcohol seems like the best option. Conor McGregor recently did it; he sold Proper 12. I believe his stake was worth around $100 million. I think alcohol is the best one because you can charge $50 for a bottle of a certain type of alcohol, and there's a chance that someone will want to buy that many times a month.
So, I think alcohol is interesting. Makeup's okay. I obviously don't know anything about that. Rihanna crushed it; her brand is killing it. It's called... what's it called? Fenty. She's got a couple of brands, and they kill it. But I think alcohol is number one.
Though, I do think that there's a world where, if I were Lance Armstrong—and I've told him this when he was on the podcast—or Michael Phelps, something like that, I would 100% partner with a hotel brand and create fitness-focused hotels. I would try to have a branded pool or a branded pool instruction that you could do in that pool, like a workout, or create a cycling-branded hotel. I think that would crush it, and I think you could make money for every year for 50 years doing that. | |
Shaan Puri |
Right, yeah. I think doing something that's on brand is kind of the key. Like Sam Harris doing this with a meditation app, right? Because that's what's on brand for him. If Sam Harris came out with alcohol or, you know, like a skincare line... no thank you. But Sam Harris with a meditation app? That could work. And I think that thing prints money.
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Sam Parr | it does and so I've heard alright you wanna do a few more | |
Shaan Puri | Yeah, Dan has one on here, by the way. George Clooney making a **$1,000,000,000** with Casamigos Tequila. Somebody told me this story. I didn't plan to say this; I don't know if it's true or not. I might be making it up.
George, have you heard this? George Clooney giving his friend **$1,000,000** each? No?
So, the story goes that George Clooney, at one time, was thinking, "When I retire, when I die, I want to basically give some of my wealth to my friends." These friends are some of the best people in my life. I used to sleep on their couch when I was trying to make it, and they really helped me in one way or another. All these friends have helped me.
Then he decided, "Okay, why am I going to wait until I die? That doesn't make any sense." So, he invited them all to a dinner at his cabin or something like that. I'm making up a lot of these details, but what I was told was that he invited them all over for dinner and brought **14 briefcases**—or like suitcases, a Tumi suitcase, actually. Each one was filled with **$1,000,000** in cash.
He invited them over for dinner and gave each of them a suitcase. They each just got **$1,000,000** from him. He was like, "You know, I've been through some hard times, and I want you to not have to worry about your kids, your mortgage, your school, whatever it is. Here you go, enjoy."
I was like, "That is a baller move! I love that! Why haven't I heard this story before? I think that's kind of amazing."
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Sam Parr | And that actually comes to a point. I've been reading about this lately. There's this great book and this concept called "Die With 0." Have you heard of this?
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Shaan Puri | no but I get the idea just off the title so it's a good title | |
Sam Parr |
Yeah, so it's called "Die with Zero" and the idea that we all have is, "I want to try to earn money and when I die, I've got something to give away to my family." And if you don't have family, "I can give away to causes that I care about."
This whole concept behind "Die with Zero" is: why would you do that? Regardless if you believe in heaven or not (I don't), what I think is... when I die, it's gonna feel like just how it felt before I was born.
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Shaan Puri | right nothing | |
Sam Parr |
And how did it feel like before I was born? Nothing. So do I really care about a legacy? Do I care about what people are saying about me when I'm... you know, pre-born feeling? Of course not. I don't care.
So if I'm gonna... and that's not... he actually doesn't say that in the book. That's my... that's me. But the [point] of the book is: Alright, why would you care so much about what you're gonna do when you're dead? Just give it to people or your friends. Like, do that plan before you die and enjoy it with your friends and family.
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Shaan Puri | Create a giving plan now. If giving matters to you, create a giving plan now. Do it now, not when you're dead.
Right, two scenarios.
**Scenario 1:** You wait until you're 88 or 92 years old. You pass away, and then there's a will reading. A couple of your friends are there; they're also in the 88 to 92-year-old range. Your kids are there, and their kids are there, whatever. You pass along some money to them, and your 88-year-old friend is like, "Oh, thanks for the $1,000,000, George. I appreciate it! It'll go straight to my..." you know.
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Sam Parr | valueless machine yeah | |
Shaan Puri | you know like what what do I need this for and your kids are also like cool could've used that when I was paying off student debt for years or like wanted to start a business but now that I'm 42 I'm glad that I'm 45 I'm glad I got this this inheritance from you thank you and so so that's scenario 1 scenario 2 you invite your friends over for dinner you bring us to me suitcase with $1,000,000 in it and you say when I eat we all eat let's go and and and basically you you hook up the people who have helped you and that matter to you and you help their lives today because why wait 40 years and let them have more discomfort or suffering along the way when you could if if you're trying to give to make an impact impact today is worth a lot more than impact 45 years from now and and so I'm a big believer in this I hadn't really thought about it till I heard this george clooney story but when I heard it I was like oh and you know my friends if I invite you to a dinner in a cabin and I show up with 14 suitcases like you know what's happening I'm about to george clooney your ass because that's what's going on and I really have taken this mindset of of when I eat we all eat I I really think it's a lot more fun to to live that way the other the other little story I'll share I was talking to my trainer and I was like I was like so I call him ja I was like yo ja so you took like you know about my goals my dreams you're helping me get there because you're my coach like and you talk about like you wanna spin up your business you're starting this fashion line great like what's your like what what is your dream though like we do this imagination exercise you know what I'm imagining for myself we we love that feeling and we use that what's yours and and and he has this thing which is you don't imagine the outcome so like let's say you wanted to be rich you don't imagine selling your company to hubspot and looking in your bank account and seeing x dollars you imagine like the congratulatory conversation like once it happens you won't be so fixated on it happening your life will just be different because it happened right so you might imagine you know your you know you might imagine your friend calling you congratulating you on the deal or you might imagine booking a trip because you have all this free time now and so you don't imagine the money you imagine what happens after you had it and you you know this this sort of implied state so anyways his was oh I imagine getting a text from my mom saying you know son thank you for the $6,000 this month like that's huge for me like you know I'm so grateful to have a son like you thank you so much and then so he he was talking about that I was like oh that's cool so instead of saying I wanna be a millionaire so that I can forgive my mom something he imagines the text from his mom and then that got him thinking so next day he goes and he sends her $600 he's like look I can't send her 6,000 every month right now but I could send her 600 today and then he showed me the text he got the next morning and it was literally like almost word for word what he had told me in the garage he was like she had she texted me she's like son I don't know what what I did to deserve such a blessing of a son like you the the money you sent me you don't even know I needed that like it's gonna go to exactly what I need thank you so much like you know I I love you so much son I hope you're you know I hope you're doing well and I was like damn that was kind of cool to see it come together and I love that he didn't wait till it was all done to start the giving plan | |
Sam Parr |
Alright, so since you were talking about giving money away, I saw that you wrote something pretty funny in our document called "The Jewish Hack to Wealth." Apartments... fuzz... I totally agree with you. I have so much, by the way.
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Shaan Puri | I don't even have more to say that's just kind of it | |
Sam Parr | I have... my wife is from a Jewish family, and I have a lot of Jewish friends. I am so envious of how they give. At my wedding, all of our Jewish guests gave us double significant checks.
I also think it's a New York thing, or I don't know if it's a New York thing or a Jewish thing, but my Missouri friends would give $100, while our Jewish New Yorker friends would give $1,000. It was amazing!
I think there's something in that particular community where you give a significant amount of money for gifts to help one another out. Money kind of flows a little bit more freely.
Getting $8,000 or $5,000 when you're 15 or 16 years old... I've talked to some kids, and that's how a lot of interesting businesses have been started. They said they used their bar mitzvah money. I completely agree.
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Shaan Puri | I don't know how many Jews there are in the world. I think there's like 10,000,000 Jews, something like that.
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Sam Parr | like 4th it's like 20 I think | |
Shaan Puri | 14... Yeah, so something like that. 14... 20 million, not a lot. But Jewish people have a unique ability; they punch above their weight. They have a lot of impact, power, and success. I don't think it's genetic; I think it's cultural.
There’s basically a strong foundation of helping each other out. Everything from Birthright, right? Like a free, all-expense-paid trip to your home country at least once in your life. That's kind of an amazing program, and it helps prevent brain drain. It keeps people tied to their culture emotionally.
Then there's Bar Mitzvahs. I don't know how many times I've heard, "Yeah, I just took all my Bar Mitzvah money and used it to start a business," or "I used it to start investing in the stock market."
Like my buddy, he had... I think he had like $12 or something from his Bar Mitzvah money when he was, I don't know, 13 or something when it happens. By the time we were in college, he had a portfolio of a quarter of a million dollars. I'm like, "What? How do you have all this money?"
He's like, "Oh yeah, it's just been compounding for, you know, for 10 years basically." And he's like, "Yeah, one of the guys, you know, a family friend who gave us the money, he didn't even give me cash. He gave me straight stock of this one biotech company that he really believed in, and that biotech company has like 10x in the seven years."
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Shaan Puri |
And yes, so... I have, you know, "What do we want to do? I got $200,000 if we wanted to start a business," and I was like, "Man, what a hack."
So two things:
1. I think it's amazing
2. I think more cultures should do this
I also had heard a pretty interesting idea of... you know, universal basic income.
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Sam Parr | so it's like this idea | |
Shaan Puri | Of like every year, you give people some amount of money, $10,000 a year or whatever. I don't know what the proposed numbers are, but some amount of money is your universal basic income, like social security for all people. It's pretty expensive. Some people think it's great; some people think it's bad. I don't really know; I don't really care.
But I do think this other idea I heard was better. What if you got a **birth dividend**? So, let's say every U.S. citizen, when you're born, the government or whoever puts $25,100 in your account—could be $30,100, something like that. From age 0 to 21, you can't touch it. So, from age 0 to 21, you have this amount compounding. If something's compounding over 21 years, it's going to double, probably at least, I think, 3 times—so 3 to 4 times.
So, everybody walking out at 21 years old would have **$15,000 to $21,200,000** ready for them to do whatever they want. This could serve as a cushion for life, a way to start something, or a way to fund a creative pursuit if they want to be an artist or whatever. I thought that was a pretty powerful idea and like a great sort of one-time bonus for every citizen.
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Sam Parr | who does that | |
Shaan Puri |
And then it's invested, so it's actually fueling the economy. It's not like Universal Basic Income where you get it and you might save it, you might spend it... you don't know what you'll do. But this [referring to the investment] is going to be invested in like an index for 21 years.
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Sam Parr |
And then in doing that, everyone is bought into a particular type of thing. So that way, even if you have different opinions - "I think that we should do this," "I think we should do that" - that's cool, but at least we all have a little bit, even if it's a tiny bit, of skin in the game. And so we're incentivized in a similar way.
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Shaan Puri | And everybody would learn about investing and compounding, and like the benefit of time and market. Right? Time and market is the most important thing. There's the Buffett phrase, "Time in the market is better than timing the market."
So, once you've been in the market for 21 years and you look at that account and you see it going up, you're going to realize the value of investing. That's, you know, like the true path to wealth. If you just do more of that, whereas if you never get started, then you never really feel it real.
So, I think that's a big benefit. I think we should have the American Bar Mitzvah Fund.
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Sam Parr | That's actually a great idea. That's incredibly interesting.
Alright, maybe we want to do one last one. Yeah, tell me about Aubrey de Grey because I've known a little bit about him.
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Shaan Puri | ask about this | |
Sam Parr | I've known a little bit about him. I've listened to podcasts with this guy. I believe he's an anti-aging doctor and professor.
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Shaan Puri | Yes, so there's a funny story. I find it funny, but other people are going to be like, "How could you say that's funny?" It's ironic.
I went on Twitter last night, as I do, and I see this tweet that says, "Aubrey de Grey is a sexual predator." I don't know who Aubrey de Grey is, so I'm like, "That's a bold tweet. Okay, what are you talking about?"
So, you know, my gossip side starts getting excited. I click it and start trying to see what's going on. Basically, two things happened. I found out that this person, Aubrey de Grey, has, you know, kind of like... I don't know exactly what they've done, but they've made people feel uncomfortable at the least and maybe sexually harassed people at the most. I'm not 100% sure.
But basically, two women who are in that field, Laura Denning and I forgot the other person's name, they came out yesterday or recently this week, something like that. They published stories saying, "Aubrey de Grey made me feel uncomfortable. He has said things to me that were totally inappropriate. It's an abuse of power."
The organization that funds him knew about this and covered it up because he was so important for fundraising and for the science of this. He's been basically like a lifelong leader of this movement of anti-aging.
So I see that and I'm like, "Alright, who's this Aubrey? I just want to see what he looks like." Who's this Aubrey guy? He's got this huge beard. Have you seen him?
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Sam Parr | Yes, he looks a little bit like... what’s the famous philosopher from the Soviet Union? Nostradamus? No, Rasputin.
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Shaan Puri |
Yeah, yeah, yeah... He looks like, you know, Gandalf or Dumbledore or something like that. You know, he looks like he's of that lineage. You wouldn't be surprised if he's Dumbledore's cousin.
So I see him and I'm like, "Oh, that's interesting. What's this guy all about? Is he a big deal?" And I click and I... So two things:
1. I click and I listen to this TED talk.
2. Ironically, the funniest thing in the TED talk was at the end. Somebody asked a question and they go, "If you're so into anti-aging, why do you try to look like an old man?"
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Sam Parr | that's pretty good | |
Shaan Puri | that was hilarious the second thing being is this guy is pretty fascinating very charismatic very weird and very interesting and the whole topic of antiaging is fascinating and so I know yesterday was like he's getting canceled and like you know he probably did some fucked up things I don't really know the guy's character maybe he's a bad guy I have no idea but this topic of antiaging and but that it was ironic that that was my entry. Into it but I was blown away by what's going on in this field so I wanted to kinda share this with you I basically wanted to like summarize this guy's ted talk for you in like 2 minutes so he gives us ted talk back in 2005 and he's talking a 1000000 miles a minute I talk fast he talks 10 times faster than me and he's got these slides that are the white with black text and then like red font callouts of like his opinion so he took like you know 12 minutes to make these slides but they're actually very effective at communicating and so he he basically gives us talk he goes aging and illness and death are you know people think today that these are inevitable and that they're okay and that they're good I don't think any of those things are true I do not think it's inevitable I think we will defeat aging I think we will we will be able to live 1,000 of years I do not think they're good and I do not think we should just sit by and just let let you know a 150,000 people die every day that was like how he starts right so you're like okay tell me more he's like first I'm gonna tell you about the bad arguments against what I'm trying to say right by the end of this I'm gonna convince you that it's not only possible it is probable that we're gonna do this and I'll tell you how but before that I will convince you I'll let me get rid of some of these really bad arguments it's like bad argument number 1 oh we'd be so bored if we didn't die right bad argument number 2 is oh the population will get too big and we'll we'll humans are bad for the earth or whatever right and he goes through these arguments he kinda like debunks each one of them very quickly and he's basically like look what we wanna do is we wanna be healthy for a long time right we're not just trying to be old and like dependent and feeble for a long time we wanna be healthy for a long time and he's like here's what's going on in this field and so this was kinda interesting to me I didn't know any of this so he's like there's 2 schools are he's like first why do we die and he's like why do we die we die for two reasons he's like to live our body does all these metabolic processes basically like heating your body cooling your body immune system digesting food like you know learning growing building muscle all these are metabolic processes we do them to live and just like any machinery like a car or a factory the more you use the machinery the more like as the physics of the thing moving happens damage happens over time it accumulates and eventually the thing breaks and stops working so he goes living creates damage damage is happening all the time and then eventually the damage kills your cells and then you die and he's like alright so there's 2 schools of thought school of thought number 1 is that let's stop the damage prevent damage right prevention is better than the cure and he's like bad idea we barely even know how metabolism works and it's highly unlikely that you're gonna be able to keep the high function of the machine running and like stop damage from happening damage seems kind of like inevitable right if the machine's gonna run | |
Sam Parr | and he's | |
Shaan Puri | Like, that's called whatever... one school of thought. It doesn't matter what the name is. He's like, then there's another called geriatrics. Geriatrics basically is like, "Cool, damage happens, but how do we either repair damage or limit the damage so that it doesn't kill your cells?"
And he's like, "That's where I think this is gonna work." So here's this guy's case on how this is gonna work. He goes, "We are gonna reach a point where we have a therapy called Human Rejuvenation Therapy (HRT), I think it's called, or something like that. I don't know what he calls it, but let's just call it that for short."
He's like, "Basically, what we know is that you're living..."
By the way, is this boring or should I keep going?
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Sam Parr | no I'm looking at I'm looking at what he's saying now as you go keep going | |
Shaan Puri | Okay, so basically he's saying that one thing we noticed is that the damage is happening from the day we're born. Our cells function and get damaged, but we don't really feel the effects until we're middle-aged or getting older. So, around 40, 50, or 60, that's when the damage starts to accumulate, and the cells begin to die. That's when brain function slows down, muscle function slows down, and reaction time slows down.
There's this point where there's too much damage. We need to give you a therapy before then. We can't just modify your DNA so that no damage happens. What we need to do is, by the time you're 30 or 40, we need to be able to give you something that will repair the damage faster than it's happening. That's how we're going to solve this.
Number two, we're going to solve it first in mice before we solve it in humans. He says a mouse lives for about 2 years. The test will be whether we can get the mouse to live for 5 years. But here's the trick: you can't breed the mouse differently. You have to let the mouse live normally for 18 months, and then you have to give it something at 18 months that extends its life by 2 years. That's going to be the test.
He's actually put up a $1.5 million prize for anyone who can do that. You have to conduct a test similar to an X Prize: let a mouse live for 18 months, give it the therapy, and then its life needs to be extended. The control group, where you don't give the mouse the therapy, needs to die 6 months later as planned. That's the breaking point.
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Shaan Puri | He's like, "Once we figure out how to do that, then like 10, 15, 20 years later, something like that, we'll be able to translate that into humans." But we don't know how to do it in mice yet.
He's like, "Right now, we can extend their life a few months, but not years."
He goes, "The second thing people think is that this is really far away. Like, oh yeah, maybe people will live forever, but not in my lifetime." He shows this curve and explains, "If you were 80 years old and we discover this stuff, it's too late for you; you're dying. If you're 60 years old and we discover this stuff, it's kind of too late for you; you're dying. If you're 50 and we discover it, we might extend you by a good 30 years, but you're probably going to die at that."
He's like, "But if you're 40 or 30 and we discover this, and at the time we discover this, you have what I call 'escape velocity,' meaning I'm going to give you the therapy before enough damage has happened, you're going to live. The guy who's 10 years older than you is going to live till he's 150, and you're going to live till you're 1,000."
He's like, "That blows people's minds, but it's true. It's just the way that this works. Once we have the therapy, the difference between somebody living an extra 40 or 50 years and an extra 1,000 years will just be like a 10-year age gap because you'll be just below that threshold of damage."
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Sam Parr | how far away are we | |
Shaan Puri | And so, he's like... he then discusses the science of breakthroughs. He goes on to say that in every field, there are breakthroughs. Breakthroughs are extremely hard to predict when they happen.
He's like, "Flight, even from prehistoric ages, we've had this idea of being able to fly." Then, nobody knew how to fly until 1903. In 1903, the Wright brothers figured out how to fly. From there, it's like every 25 years, there's a pretty big jump—from two dudes in a plane that’s basically going to kill you, to a plane that’s reliable, to a plane that can go really far, to supersonic planes.
Now, we get on a plane, it's super safe. You go to sleep, you watch a movie, you fly, right? Every 25 years, incremental progress happens after the breakthrough.
So, you can predict incremental progress. He knows that after we get the breakthrough of figuring out mice, we're going to have like 15 to 20 years before we can turn it into a therapy in humans that extends life by 20 or 30 years of healthy life. But, you know, we don’t know when that breakthrough is going to happen.
He's like, "The bad part is, we spent like 100 years and basically nothing's happened for this breakthrough."
So, yeah, that’s kind of where it's at right now. I was pretty fascinated. I was like, "I want to go!" This is just like... I'm at the TED Talk level, so, you know, that's the surface of the surface. But I'm very interested in going deeper and learning more.
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Sam Parr | So, there's this book on longevity. I believe it's called *Lifespan*. I'm thinking about reading it because I'm very fascinated by this topic. It's something that I've been contemplating.
We're going to have to wrap up here, but when I think about dying, it seems like we mostly die from some type of cancer or Alzheimer's or something like that. If the timeline is long enough, we're all going to get cancer or some type of Alzheimer's and die.
I've always wondered to myself, isn't it weird that with everything we have, someone could still die from one of these illnesses that you could have had for 6, 12, or 24 months? I've always thought you should know right away. You should know once that cell forms... I don't know anything about medicine, but you understand.
Anyway, I've also been obsessing over this. Maybe it's because I'm getting into my thirties now, and I'm feeling a little bit of soreness. I don't want to get older, and I'm flipping out a little bit. So, I'm on board with this, and I'm going to start reading this.
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Shaan Puri | Yeah, there's this chart that's great. The chart basically shows why people die. It's a visual chart, so it's blue if it just happens in yourself—it's non-transmissible. Red is if one person passes it to another, like the flu or COVID or whatever.
Then, there's the size of the bubble, which represents how many people die of that every year. For example, number one is cardiovascular disease, and number two is cancer. That's the bulk of the deaths. Number five is influenza, and then you kind of go on from there.
So you're right, it is these sort of same causes that people are trying to fix, but there's no breakthrough yet that radically eliminates them. Remember when people used to die of cancer? That will happen; it's just a matter of when, which is pretty sweet honestly. | |
Sam Parr | Yeah, it's interesting to me. Alright, I think that episode was a 9 out of 10. What do you think?
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Shaan Puri | I liked it what do you think dan I'll give you a 9 as well | |
Sam Parr | alright I think that was good | |
Shaan Puri | Dan's got a little bit of a Ned Flanders in him. I can see Dan being the Ned Flanders of a neighborhood. I don't think that's a compliment. | |
Sam Parr | I no that's that's a compliment | |
Shaan Puri | great neighbor what's wrong with ned flanders alright I'll take it like a very positive guy | |
Sam Parr | yes the I thought that was a comment alright thank you that's the episode |