Sam Returns - The Boys Hang Out (#516)
Fatherhood, Masculinity, and Parenting Advice - November 7, 2023 (over 1 year ago) • 32:23
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Shaan Puri | You text me something | |
Shaan Puri | You're like, "Sean, you're 7 out of 10 funny, you're 8 out of 10 charming."
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Shaan Puri | and so I was like this is | |
Shaan Puri | a sam parr compliment I think I'm getting here | |
Sam Parr | I'm back | |
Shaan Puri | You know, when Michael Jordan came back to the league, he just faxed in a one-pager with just those words on it: "I'm back."
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Sam Parr | we have a lot in common him and I | |
Shaan Puri | Yeah, unfortunately, when he came back, he was wearing number 45 and he kind of sucked that year. They got knocked out of the playoffs, so I'm hoping you're coming back a little stronger. | |
Sam Parr | Us six or seven Black guys, we have a lot in common. You know what I'm saying? Me and MJ, did you miss me? It felt like a long time for me. I don't think it felt like a long time for you because you were pretty prolific. You kind of had a couple of hits.
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Shaan Puri | I did so many podcasts in the last three weeks. I definitely missed you because that was a lot of content. I don't know why I did that.
I think what I should have done, in retrospect, was say, "Okay, Sam's out. Let's not force the issue. When he comes back, we'll come back strong." Instead, I overcompensated when you were out and I was like, "No, I am going to create all the content the world needs tonight." And that's what I tried to do.
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Sam Parr | And also, we were working really hard ahead of time. I mean, I felt like I was recording a bunch ahead of time. So, you've been kind of grinding now for about 5 weeks. It feels like. | |
Shaan Puri | Yeah, the funny thing is we thought you were going to be out this month. So, we have all these guest hosts planned for this month because your baby came early. Now we have a full month of guests coming up.
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Sam Parr | I can go away... I can go away again. But you did great! We'll talk about some of the stuff I was doing, but you were doing great.
The Sarah Moore podcast was phenomenal. That woman is a superstar! You did a very good job of getting some good stuff out of her.
You also did a non-pod thing that I thought was some of your finest work: the All In podcast video or the All In CEO application. If you haven't seen it, go to Sean's Twitter and you'll see it. It got 1,100,000 views; I looked this morning.
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Shaan Puri | Alright, you ready? Welcome to my 5-minute job application to become CEO of the All In Podcast. This is the American dream, baby! I have worked my ass off for years just so that one day I could get to work with such a group of successful, intelligent billionaires... and Jason Calacanis.
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Sam Parr | that was very good and you did it all on your own you even edited it | |
Shaan Puri | Right, yeah, I didn't have an editor, and it was one of those ideas that... so, okay, I'll just explain what it is.
The All In Podcast, which is a popular business podcast, was like, "Oh, we're hiring a CEO." It started with these four guys who are super rich. The joke I make is that the All In Pod is billionaires talking about billionaire stuff, and our pod is millionaires talking about millionaire stuff.
So, they were like, "We're hiring a CEO to turn this into a real brand," and whatever. I thought, you know, what would be funny is if I did a joke application for this job. So, I recorded this video.
The problem is, the video is good, but I only wrote at the very end that this was a joke and not meant to be taken seriously. So, people are texting my dad, saying, "Hey, I heard Sean's gonna get the job for CEO of All In. Congratulations!" My dad's like, "What's All In? What's a podcast?"
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Sam Parr | and I'm like and you're insulting them the whole time | |
Shaan Puri | The funny thing, by the way, is that I told him, "My dad texted me that," and I go, "No, no, no, it's just a joke." Then he goes, "Okay, who started it?" He thinks someone's messing with me.
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Sam Parr | I started it, but you were like, "You're a ribbon on them." I mean, it was funny. Yeah, it was all fair because it was mostly funny stuff, but you were giving them a hard time, so that's pretty funny.
Then a couple of them replied and were like, "You've made it to the second round." So I actually thought they handled it well. Did they reach out to you at all?
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Shaan Puri | No, they handled it well. They didn't reach out beyond just the public replies or whatever. Then they played the first 5 or 10 seconds on their podcast. Unfortunately, that made it even worse because that part is where it sounds like I'm serious about it. Then I start roasting them, but they cut off all the me roasting them and just put the part where it's, "Hey, I'm applying for this job," which is actually the best roast back that they could have done. | |
Sam Parr | I think our friend messaged us and said one of the great things about... or what did he say? He said a really powerful tool is to be able to take the popular narrative and blunt force your way into the conversation. You did it perfectly. You did a very good job.
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Shaan Puri | talking about newsjacking that I think ryan holiday | |
Sam Parr | newsjacking | |
Shaan Puri | Coined that term, or at least he popularized it, which is: you take the current thing, but you find a way to attach yourself to it and you sort of hijack the news. This is called "newsjacking."
And it's not... well, it wasn't my intent. I just wanted to try something funny.
So, I've been... I'll tell you, we do this podcast and I love this podcast. But also, I told you I'm not trying to start another company, right? Which is all I've ever done for 15, 16 years. I've been like, "I'm a startup CEO, I'm gonna start a company." It's kind of my identity, and I'm trying to shift that.
I'm having a lot of fun creating content, but also, it doesn't take that much time to produce this podcast. It takes some time, for sure, but when you're used to working, I don't know, 50, 60 hours a week, I couldn't put 50, 60 hours a week into this.
And again, the smart, chill move would be to just take that energy and go be a better dad, go do some community service, and just better myself as a whole. But I'm a flawed human being, and so I need to direct that 50 to 60 hours of energy into some creative work project.
So, I was like, I've been looking for ways, like other content I can create, other content formats that are gonna be fun. One of them was this idea of doing something that's a little bit funnier. It's almost like... the thing I did was kind of like, you ever seen "Last Week Tonight" or "The Daily Show"? It's sort of like that.
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Sam Parr | I know that you've been loving last week tonight I I know you've been loving that style | |
Shaan Puri | Yeah, so I will try to do that style, which by the way, is very nerve-wracking. It's hard.
It's one thing to be doing a podcast and crack a joke in the flow of a conversation. It's another to be like, "In this video, I'm gonna be funny. I'm gonna tell jokes and make you laugh."
And it's like, wait... within 10 minutes, I was like, "Is any of this funny?" I just couldn't figure it out, bro. I was like, "I don't know if this is good or if this is gonna be a total lame thing to put out there."
And that was a nice feeling. It was good to feel alive again.
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Sam Parr | Well, here's the good news: Twitter is not a very funny place. So, even an 8 out of 10 can crush it.
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Shaan Puri | Yeah, you texted me something. You're like, "Sean, you're 7 out of 10 funny, you're 8 out of 10 charming."
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Shaan Puri | and I was like this is a this is | |
Shaan Puri | a sam parr compliment I think I'm getting here | |
Sam Parr | it was awesome I thought it was good | |
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Shaan Puri | How's life as a dad? So, you created a baby. Well, you didn't really create it; you played a small role in creating this baby. But the baby's here now.
Life changed. Is life the same? What's the situation?
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Sam Parr | It changed. I think I talked to 30 friends; you were one of them. The predominant answer was, "You love your baby, but you're not in love with your baby." I only heard about 5 of the 30 people say they were in love right away. But predominantly, people were saying, you know, it's like they're just an alien at first, and you don't really get feedback.
That wasn't the case with me, man. I was in right away. I've always been, what I always say with animals and children, "I'm softer than cream cheese." I've always been soft with those types of things, and I was in right away, baby. I loved it; it was awesome.
First of all, we did a C-section, which is like magic. The doctor was like, "I'm starting now," and literally, I timed it: 4 minutes later, the baby was crying and out. Then the doctor said, "And now I'm putting your uterus back inside of you." It's crazy, man. That's a line.
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Shaan Puri | you used to use right yeah | |
Sam Parr | yeah I was like jinx you owe me a coke doc | |
Shaan Puri | wait were you in the room you told me you were gonna be in the room | |
Sam Parr | I was in the room, and basically what they do is, you know, mom is laying in one direction. Then they take the baby out and bring her like 10 feet to the side of her. I go and check on the baby, and I was like, "Don't look, don't look, don't look."
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Shaan Puri | what was your angle like were they like I saw it | |
Sam Parr | I still saw it | |
Shaan Puri | Sam, you're like, "Why are you cleaning? Why are you cleaning all the glassware over there?" | |
Sam Parr | I was staring at my feet, trying not to look, and I definitely looked. It was pretty wild; it was gory.
Another thing it made me do was view women as wizards. The fact that they could have this being growing inside of them and then it just comes out... it gave me almost a spiritual respect for my wife. That was pretty magical.
It's almost like you view her as a partner and also as a sexual being. You know, she's sexualized to you after this. I'm like, "You're a god!" I can't imagine you are not just beautiful to me; you are like this spiritual being.
So, the immense amount of respect... Another thing that happened, I remember thinking, the week I went in or the week we had the baby, I think the stock market was dying or something. I barely looked, but I remember thinking that the volume of love I had for this new baby was so loud that every other problem was just silent. I just didn't care nearly as much.
So, that was a pretty breathtaking thing to have. Did you experience that?
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Shaan Puri | Some of those things you just described... I would say the first six weeks after watching my wife give birth were like, "Can I refill that for you? What do you need? Let's just sit down and talk about your needs for a little bit."
How can I, the peasant pleb that I am compared to you, make your life one ounce easier? It lasted only six weeks, I gotta say. I reverted back to my normal self after that. But for six weeks, the visceral feeling of watching that happen made me just be like, "Okay, you're a miracle, and I'm here to ease your life in any way that I can because you just did the hardest thing I've ever seen."
I don't know what a C-section is like, but my life was doing all the pushing and all that stuff. It's just a primal experience—no epidural, all that crap.
So, wow! After that, I was definitely, like you’re saying, just in awe. You know, a lot of people ask me when we got married, they're like, "Oh, you're married now..."
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Shaan Puri | you know is how is life is it different with you guys I was | |
Shaan Puri | Like, no, we've been living together for three years. Literally, nothing changed.
But the time something did change was after the baby. And not even because of the baby, more how I saw her just changed. You know, I saw her perform, you know, an act of God, and so that was cool.
So I definitely felt that. I didn't feel the instant attachment, but that's cool that you did. Did you do like skin-to-skin and all that? Was it like...? | |
Sam Parr | oh yeah | |
Shaan Puri | Is it like a pheromone thing? Or at the time, was it chemical or philosophical? Did you think it, or did it just feel like... were there just the chemicals in your brain going off? What was it?
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Sam Parr | I haven't worn a shirt in 2 weeks I basically just for me it was | |
Shaan Puri | That's not what they mean when they say it's a grocery store.
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Sam Parr | Yeah, I went and bought a bunch of beaters. I've only been wearing beaters basically for easy access. I did it just to keep the kid warm. I mean, I do it just to keep her warm, and it feels nice touching her skin. I just like touching her.
I've noticed that men are a little bit different. I watched a video on Instagram, and it's like all I'm doing is playing with her face, rubbing her cheeks, rubbing her chest, and rubbing her back. I just like touching her. It makes me feel good to touch her, and I think it keeps her warm. | |
Shaan Puri | Yeah, we... you also said something like, "It makes the other problems seem small." That's definitely true, right? Because everything's relative in life.
Isn't it crazy? I saw a video the other day on TikTok that made me so sad. It was this video that wasn't meant to be sad. It was like, you know, these YouTubers that vlog their life. It was a guy vlogging his day, except he was in Peru. They lived in a hut with a dirt floor and his two kids.
He wakes up at 5 in the morning and does his morning routine, which includes doing push-ups. He was basically doing like Andrew Huberman, but like, you know, the real stuff. He's doing push-ups on the dirt floor, outside in nature, because his home is partially in nature. His kids were these two small kids, maybe like 3 or 5 years old. They were just warming themselves up with hot water in the morning and then doing their schoolwork on the cot that they were living on.
I'll play this video. It was sad and heartwarming at the same time. It's this weird thing, especially since my daughter is the same age as the kid in the video. You just see the difference in quality of life, and it's kind of stunning.
And it's not the first time, right? I lived in Indonesia, and my family's from India. I've seen poverty before, but every time you see it, it just puts it back in the front of your brain.
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Sam Parr | than the back of your brain happy | |
Shaan Puri | He was super happy, and that's what I was. Or, like, he was happy; he was as happy as I am. I'm like, you know, this is obviously some college wisdom, but it really is just that we acclimate to whatever our circumstances are. We have this sort of baseline normal, but everything is relative.
It's relative to your expectations, it's relative to your neighbors, and it's relative to what you know and what you've felt. For him, whatever was happening that day would spike him up towards peak happiness. If something went wrong, it would go a little bit below.
But the absolute—if you just look objectively—if an alien was watching, they would say, "Certainly, this person is at least 10 times happier on an absolute basis." And it's like, no, not at all. We're actually probably exactly the same on an absolute basis.
One thing that does happen is if you have a kid, your "quote unquote" problems from before are no longer problems. Like, if your kid has a runny nose and a cough, all of a sudden, who cares what's happening in Slack or whatever else? I think that's one of the many blessings that kids will give you.
The other blessing, which you probably haven't experienced yet, is when you are talking to a little kid—let's say a year and a half years old. You're showing them things, and you're like, "Look! Oh my god, the water is dripping!" or "Look at this! I could take this eraser and I could erase the horse; it's gone! It's magic!"
In trying to make the kid see the magic in the everyday things, you are also there for the ride. You slow down and start to feel the same wonder about all the little things, even when you're kind of faking it for the kid. So that's like the other huge thing that kids, I think, do for you.
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Sam Parr | I'm excited for that!
Another thing that I don't think people discuss enough, and I think it's probably because I hang out with a bunch of Peter Pans, is that most of my friends are between 30 and 40. They have some type of financial success and just go to Spain when they want. They are single and...
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Shaan Puri | can pronounce benita yeah | |
Sam Parr | A lot of my friends are kind of selfish, you know? Not that that's wrong, but what wasn't discussed with me ahead of time was how I feel. I feel like a fucking man. I feel so masculine having a kid. It's like the final piece of the puzzle, and now I can continue putting the pieces together. I have all of the pieces now. I didn't realize how masculine it would make me feel.
I think I read somewhere that someone defined masculinity as producing excess resources to make sure that your tribe has what they need. I was like, "I get it." I know... I think I...
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Shaan Puri | Think, Beth, the definition of masculinity is looking up and defining the word "masculinity" to put some words to it. | |
Shaan Puri | to this that that's the | |
Shaan Puri | most masculine thing I could think of | |
Sam Parr | Hey, I am what I am. I remember thinking how hormonal I felt. Like, I remember two nights after, or the first night home, I heard someone walking outside or something in the street. I just bolted up, and I was ready to roll.
It's also crazy how, when I was with the doctor, I asked, "So when is she going to start making milk?" She didn't have it like two hours ago, and they said, "Oh, she's probably ready to roll right now." I was like, "So you're telling me that she didn't have it, and then an hour later she does?" They replied, "Yeah, your body just knows."
It was just mind-boggling to me how primal and animalistic we are, yet we try to avoid that.
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Shaan Puri | totally totally it's miraculous is | |
Sam Parr | That not crazy to you? Like, where I was like, "You guys, where's the threshold?" Does she have to do push-ups? What do we gotta do to like...? | |
Shaan Puri | Get this flowing. Yeah, is there a dummy? We eat what?
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Shaan Puri | does it take | |
Sam Parr | and they're like oh just give it a few hours | |
Shaan Puri | dude I had | |
Shaan Puri | So many of those "hang on, hang on, hang on" moments with the nurses. They were like, "Yeah." So I was like, "This happened also during the delivery." I was like, "Okay." And they were like, "Yeah, you can walk around. You know, you could deliver the baby standing up or you could be on all fours."
I was like, "On all fours? What are we talking about here?" They said, "Yeah, actually it's an easier position, less painful." I was like, "Every movie or TV show, there's only one position that they show." They can't...
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Sam Parr | show they can't show butt butthole on the camera so | |
Shaan Puri | That's why in the second phase of the labor process, I'm having a "hang on, hold on, no way, no way" moment. And they're like, "Dude, first of all, it's just not about you right now. You need to learn." That's actually rule number one.
Rule number two: Yes, all of these things that you don't understand, they're real and they happen.
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Sam Parr | Yeah, so that was crazy. And then maybe I'll say the last thing. I don't know how this has impacted your career, but let's talk about money for a minute.
I have a feeling this is going to make me significantly better in my career because I think my hours will be more focused. I also think that as she grows, I'm going to want to show consistency. So, like a normal 9 to 5, or just to make an example of, like, "Look, I’m here to provide. I commit to what I say. I show up and get through things."
I think it's going to actually make me more successful, even if I have fewer hours. Do you think that's going to be true?
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Shaan Puri | I think it's true because you're telling yourself that.
Yeah, like you know, my grand theory of life is that our brain is basically a giant labeling machine. My view of the world is that it's like a box coming on the conveyor belt—just things happening in life. Then our brain puts a label on it and says, "This means this."
For example, "Oh, this guy drove in front of me; this means he's an asshole and he cut me off." Or, it could mean something else completely. I could just completely make up a different definition. I could be focusing on the plants instead of that.
So, our brain is this labeling machine, and that's what defines everything that happens in our life. I think that for you, you're saying, "You know what this baby means in my life?" It means that now I'm going to be more mature, I'm going to be wiser, I'm going to be more focused. I'm going to show her work ethic. I'm going to want to be less erratic. I'm going to actually zen out or sort of chill out and be a stable rock-type figure.
So then you're going to do exactly that. It's a self-fulfilling thing, right?
So, yeah, I do think it will be that for you, but I don't think it's because of the baby. I think it's because you're putting a really strong, empowering meaning on the baby.
By the way, we should talk about... and I'm so sorry to hear about Sid, your dog. But I read your blog post, and you said kind of a similar thing. Can you talk about that? You basically said you were kind of in the "f-boy" mode, and then you got this dog.
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Sam Parr | So, if you follow me on social media, you know I've got this huge dog—or I had this huge dog. I've had him for almost 15 years, and he was my best friend. I love this animal.
Basically, when he was 2 or 3 years old, I got a DUI and spent 24 hours in jail. When I came home, he went to the bathroom in the house, and I was so upset. I thought, "Oh my God, this dog didn't know if I was going to come home. What if I was gone for 3 days?" This was miserable. I realized I had to get my act together; I had a responsibility.
That was a turning point for me. I thought, "I have this responsibility; I have to take care of him." It changed my life. I remember thinking it felt good to care about something. Some people, I guess I can say this now that I have kids, were insulted when I would say, "Yeah, having a dog is kind of like 5% of having a kid." People would respond, "What? How dare you?"
Now that I have a kid, I can say, "Yeah, it was like 5%." I had this thing that I cared for. The animal is obviously inherently less valuable, but also less work. Still, I had this inherent feeling: "I care for you, and I want to make sure you have what you need." That definitely changed me for the better.
Leading up to the baby being born, I knew Sid was going to die soon. I even wrote a fake obituary for him before he died so I could enjoy my last 6 months with him. My wife and I thought, "We gotta get him to the birth. We need to take this one picture to complete the picture." I needed to show the transition from being a moron, idiot, fuckboy to a family man. I needed to prove that I had my act together.
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Shaan Puri | To see something great, you said, "Dogs for guys in their early twenties are like a special thing." Specifically, what do you mean by that?
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Sam Parr | A dog in your early twenties is significant because, when men are in their early twenties, specifically at 21, they are no longer kids. They have more responsibility and don't get a pass for doing dumb things, but they are still often immature. This immaturity can lead to personal growth, and as you grow, the friends you have at 21 are often not the same friends you have at 31.
However, your dog in your twenties is the only one that has been there the whole time. They provide loyalty and love unconditionally. Therefore, a man and his dog in their twenties share a very special bond.
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Shaan Puri | they see the transformation | |
Sam Parr | They see the transformation, and they're the only ones. I mean, not all the people who you're friends with at 21 knew college Sean.
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Shaan Puri | right | |
Shaan Puri | and | |
Sam Parr | You're still friends with them, maybe, but they don't know what you've been doing lately. And then your wife and your friends now, they don't know what you were. There's really only one thing that... | |
Shaan Puri | Every day in your house, and like you said, unconditionally, they don't judge you either. But they, you know... yeah, it's a powerful thing.
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Sam Parr | The title of my blog post was, "I Never Truly Cared About Legacy." I thought, "The feeling that I'm going to have when I die is the feeling that I had before I was born, which is nothing. So why do I care?"
Then, my buddy Sid, my dog, died. I remember thinking, "I did so much to please you, and that impacted me." Maybe I've had a little bit of impact on some other people, and it was really because of my love for you. This changed my perspective on legacy.
What's crazy is we were due around now, November 1, and he died in October. We had him for 10 days after birth. I felt like it was a little spiritual, where I thought, "Oh my God, the world worked like how... whatever 15 years is, however many days that is, that many days plus 10 days is what I got." That was a very meaningful impact for me.
I posted that blog post, and what's crazy to me is I felt like a pussy sharing that because I used to make fun of people who cared about their dogs as much. Then I realized, "Oh, I've totally become that."
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Shaan Puri | If you ever... I mean, it might be too raw for you at the moment, but there's a great guy who runs, or is the main host of SportsCenter, Scott Van Pelt. He did a tribute to his dog when his dog passed, on air, on SportsCenter for like 3 minutes. He just talked, and you know, you're definitely going to cry when you watch that.
That feeling is... I don't know anybody who has a dog that doesn't love their dog. I don't know anybody who loves their dog that wouldn't feel that way. So, you know, it is completely reasonable.
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Sam Parr | It was the first time I've cried in probably 13 years, and I was like, "Oh my God!" It was pretty wild, but I'm happy it worked out.
I have one bone to pick with you: I wish you would have told me to have a kid sooner. I wish you would have told me because you've always been like Mr. Cool Guy, where you withhold a little bit of emotion and don't want to express how wonderful it is.
Well, maybe you just don't feel that way, but I don't think that's true. Within days of having her, I remember thinking there was no reason for me not to do this four years sooner. If I die at the same age, I would have had four additional years.
I wish you would have told me to do it sooner. That's one of my only regrets. Not a lot of people talk about that. They always say, "Oh, wait, you've got time, man. It's pretty awesome." I wish I would have done it sooner.
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Shaan Puri | Yeah, I think my personal advice would still be the same. Kids are amazing, awesome, and so much fun. The fun gets baked into your day; you don't have to go do anything. What you don't realize when you're in your twenties, thirties, or when you're single, is that you have to basically chase fun.
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Shaan Puri | It's like, "Oh, I'm going to fucking Coachella, and then I'm going to this thing. I'm gonna go hang out over here, and then I'm gonna learn this new skill, and I'm gonna do..." | |
Shaan Puri | All these things, and you look at people with kids and you're like, "Ah, suckers! Trapped in jail with their kids." What they don't realize is that you basically took all of the dope life experiences, simplified them, and now you get to have them in your house all the time. That's actually what's happening to those people you think are trapped with their kids.
But, you know, you don't want to be that obnoxious, condescending person with kids. It's just like my brother-in-law said this one time. He was like, "You know, the only real person that we could talk real with each other." And he's like, "Your life doesn't have any meaning until you have kids." He's like, "That's just how I feel." Okay? He's like, "I know I'm not supposed to say that. I know that's not..." | |
Sam Parr | gatekeep I'm gonna gatekeep that from now on people say something like oh you don't know any better wait till you have kids you don't | |
Shaan Puri | know any better he said that to me he said that not | |
Shaan Puri | To me, he's like... we were talking about somebody else. He's like, "They just don't realize it, and they're gonna keep talking to themselves into how, you know, blah blah blah, like how their life is so awesome without kids."
He's acting for himself. He's like, "You know, I didn't have any meaning until this, and now I have... you know, my cup is full."
The only thing I would say, though, is that the four years you're talking about, like, there is a one-way door. To use the Jeff Bezos decision-making framework, once you have the kid, you can't unhave the kid, really. Your freedoms have changed fundamentally from this point forward.
So, I think that the freedoms you have, like, you know, from age 26 to 31 or whatever, are pretty valuable. You should have them while you're there, and then go walk through that one-way door. Now you have a different set of joys, but you do have a different degree of freedom.
I think that's much more important than, like, you know, worrying about these... like, "My age is 76 to 80, you know, glad I had those four extra years." I don't think life actually works like that. I think it is good you had the freedom to do all the things you did and become the person you became. You know, it happened at the right time for you. I think you settled down.
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Sam Parr | yeah but it's been | |
Shaan Puri | Four years ago, what were you doing? You were living on 6th Street in San Francisco. You were stressed.
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Shaan Puri | out | |
Sam Parr | Learning the difference between meth, crack, and heroin, and the different ways in which you put them in your body. Walking around, soma.
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Shaan Puri | You're having a DARE class without the DARE officer in Soma, San Francisco, and you're stressed out building your company. You're making $37,000 a year. I don't think that was the right time to have the kid. I think my advice was good to say, "Wait."
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Sam Parr | By the way, I know that you... I understand this perspective of why people don't do it. I totally get it. A night nurse is a cheat code; everyone keeps telling me that.
So, for those who don't know, a night nurse is basically this lady who is in another room with the baby. When the baby cries every 3 hours, she goes and wakes up mom and says, "Alright, alright, heifer, it's time to feed. Alright, cow!" My wife was basically a cow for 3 months. She's like, "Hey, whip the boob out, you're good to go," and I sleep in a separate room. My sleep has been awesome.
Women, I don't know if it's my wife, but I feel like a lot of women go through waking up every 3 hours and still have a pretty good day the next day. Maybe they're just running on adrenaline. But for me, I cannot wake up every 3 hours and still be a functioning human being the next day. | |
Shaan Puri | you need a night nurse too | |
Sam Parr | I need a night nurse I want someone to swaddle me I would love to get swaddled | |
Shaan Puri | Dude, I still sleep with my wife's pregnancy pillow because I'm like, "This is incredible!" This is the level of comfort that was available to me. Why is this only for pregnant women? Justice for non-pregnant women!
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Sam Parr | My knees haven't touched in bed for like the last 9 months. Like, dude, knees should not be touching with just...
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Shaan Puri | A few minutes... one pregnancy pillow, the Swedish one. Somebody sent this to me, and I was like, "A Swedish pregnancy pillow? Who do I trust?" Can I just get one off Amazon? And they're like, "Brother, just shut up and trust me."
So I did. I ordered this thing, and it took like a week and a half to arrive. Boy, has it arrived in my life! You know, my daughter's 4 now. That's 4 years I've been sleeping with this pillow. I bought 2. It's incredible.
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Sam Parr | Yeah, I've been wearing nipple guards when I go running. So, like, hey, I'm all about all the different pregnancy stuff. But yeah, it's been awesome. I'm going to try and not be that guy that posts all this stuff on social media, but I might be. You don't post your children, do you?
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Shaan Puri | I don't I don't even use instagram and stuff so I don't I don't really | |
Sam Parr | but is it a rule that you don't do it no | |
Shaan Puri | no no I just | |
Sam Parr | you just I don't have a gun around to it | |
Shaan Puri | I don't like to post that type of stuff. I post like, I'll tweet random thoughts or I'll do a podcast. That's what I like to do—I like to put thoughts out there, not necessarily life pictures.
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Sam Parr | Well, I'm gonna try also not to be that guy, but we'll see if I can keep up with that.
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Shaan Puri | Alright, well this is the catch-up episode. We'll just go ahead and publish this, even though it's totally different from a normal episode. It's us reconnecting, rebonding... you know, we needed a little skin-to-skin after what was only... yeah.
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Sam Parr | Two weeks apart, bro. Let me put my cheek to your chest, man. Just warm my cheeks, alright? That's the pod.
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