The Next Billion Dollar Business Idea Using ChatGPT (#444)

Shaan Puri

Somebody's gonna build a to-do list app that will actually do your to-do list, and I think that's gonna be insane. I think that's gonna be like... you know how Evernote was kinda big for a little while? These kind of note-taking apps have gotten to like the few billion-dollar range. A to-do list app that actually does your to-dos is like next level.

Sam Parr

Alright, we're live! Dude, I have a bunch of interesting stuff to talk to you about today. Do you?

Shaan Puri

Yeah, I got a couple things. Alright, let me give you... I'm gonna give you an idea. So, I don't know how much you've been paying attention to, like, I guess... how much do you pay attention to the new stuff in AI? Because I feel like there's like a 48-hour cycle where your mind is gonna be blown every 48 hours with something new. And on Twitter, you get to see like a lot of the demos. I don't know if you have a chance to like play with any of these things yourself, but...

Sam Parr

I've seen a a a bunch of them which one are you

Shaan Puri

Talking about... so there's one that's kind of interesting right now. It's called **Auto GPT**. Have you heard of this? No? Or **Baby AGI**? Oh, I just...

Sam Parr

saw it on the top of hacker news today

Shaan Puri

So basically, AGI is **Artificial General Intelligence**. It's when AI can do anything. Right now, we have narrow AI, like self-driving cars or robots that pick up boxes and put them in the right spot. General AI is when you have a computer program that you can talk to, and it can figure out how to do things. It's not trained in any one specific area.

Sam Parr

what's the url what's the url to go to

Shaan Puri

Well, it's not so simple. This is like a GitHub project right now. So, what somebody did was they took ChatGPT, which most people have heard of because ChatGPT has over 100 million users signed up in just 2 months. This makes it, I think, the fastest growing product of all time. By the way, look at this tweet. It basically shows the Google Trends search traffic for the following terms: Metaverse, Ethereum, Web 3, and ChatGPT. ChatGPT is like a vertical line. It's, I don't know, 10 times bigger than Web 3 search traffic, or it's 50 times bigger than what Web 3 search traffic was. It's 4 times more than Ethereum has ever had.

Sam Parr

oh my god

Shaan Puri

Which is kind of a crazy thing. Right now, ChatGPT is searched more than Taylor Swift on Google, which is like kind of insane.

Sam Parr

I think the CEO of Google said, like, the other day, "This is more important than the invention of electricity." Wow!

Shaan Puri

Yeah, I heard the CEO of Microsoft divorced his wife and just married ChatGPT. Like, people are getting kinda crazy nowadays. So anyway, big deal... ChatGPT. You go to it, you basically tell it... you talk to it, it gives you an answer. You talk to it, it gives you an answer. What the Auto GPT or Baby AGI, I think, did was...

Sam Parr

is it mini mini gpt

Shaan Puri

No, baby, it's auto... auto with auto and baby, baby AGI. But the premise between these is that you can kind of give it tasks. You could say, "Hey, I want to make a website for my personal portfolio. Here's a folder with my files, and I want it to look like whatever." What it will do is break that task down into steps, just like a human would. You'd say, "Well, first you need to make a simple portfolio site. You can go to Squarespace and do that. Log in, go to Squarespace, sign up, choose a template." Now you have your template. Now you need to upload your photos first. Put them on the... you know, upload them to their drive and then drag them into the right spots.

Sam Parr

yeah yeah it's like looking up a recipe it gives you good directions

Shaan Puri

but not just gives you good directions it does the directions

Sam Parr

that's that's the that that's the original that's how how openai stuff

Shaan Puri

Yeah, ChatGPT, you could say, "What are the steps to do this?" and it would tell you the steps. Now, you've got to go do it. What these other ones are trying to do is create agents. They call them basically little workers that can do a task. One worker can pass the work of another worker. For example, creating a Squarespace site can pass something to the next worker, which basically says, "Oh great, you gave me the login to a Squarespace site. My job is to upload photos into it," and I'll upload photos. Maybe my example is not so good here, but I think people get the idea. You want to get something done; it's a multistep process. Not only will it now tell you the steps, but you can get it to just do the steps, which is obviously better than it just telling you how to do it. This is kind of a crazy thing. You know, it's not great yet; you can't do everything. But the fact that it can even do a little bit of this shows you again where this is going. Because ChatGPT is like, I don't know, what, six months old or something like that? I don't know how old that is, but it hasn't even been around for years. In a very short amount of time, we've gotten to this.

Shaan Puri

Where, oh now, it doesn't just give you directions; it can kind of do it. This got me thinking about an idea.

Sam Parr

I wanted to do my taxes can I do that

Shaan Puri

Yeah, so people are working on **Tax GPT**, which is basically designed to do your taxes for you. So that's coming. There's another one, which I'm calling, you know, **To-Do GPT**—the magic to-do list. The magic to-do list is like to-do list apps. I've always joked that they are a rite of passage to becoming an entrepreneur. A lot of people have this idea, "Oh, I'll make a better to-do list." As a developer, you're like, "Oh, that's not so hard to build. It's just a list, and I have to keep track of some state." As a product person, you're like, "God, I'm always overwhelmed by my toolbox. It sucks! I can make a better one."

Sam Parr

that and like college campus craigslist

Shaan Puri

Yeah, you even bought a to-do list app at one point, right? People think of to-do list apps as things they go into, but they're all kind of in some old paradigm. The idea is, "Give me an app, I'll write in my to-dos, and I'll check them off as I do them." The hard part of any to-do list is not the list itself; it's the doing. So, wait, didn't you tell me that this AutoGPT thing could start doing the doing? Now you can imagine a to-do list app that basically says, "Hey Sean, what do you need to do today?" You might say, "Oh yeah, I'm trying to get my pool fence installed, so I gotta call and get a quote." The app could respond, "Cool, let me do that for you." It could call three local places to get you quotes because the AI exists to be able to do auto-calling already. Then, it would take those quotes and put them into a table, saying, "Here's our recommendation. Are you okay with that?" If you say, "Sure," it would then say, "Alright, I've booked it. Can I use this credit card?" You'd respond, "Yep," and then it goes and does the thing. It schedules it and asks, "Do you want me to add that to your calendar?" You'd say, "Fantastic." So, someone is going to build a to-do list app that will actually do your to-dos, and I think that's going to be insane. It's like how Evernote was kind of big for a little while. These note-taking apps have gotten to a few billion dollars. A to-do list app that actually does your to-dos is next level. I think Google and all these companies are going to try to do it, so it's going to be very competitive. But that's coming, and it's going to be incredible.

Sam Parr

How do I play with Bay? What Bay? It's called Baby AGI, and then there's another one that's called Auto... what's it called?

Shaan Puri

auto gpt

Sam Parr

auto g p gpt how do I like play with it because I I think

Shaan Puri

People are trying to **productionize** it because, right now, they uploaded the code to GitHub. You can go and run it yourself, but for us, we're too dumb to do that. So, somebody's going to put this on... you know, people are going to put these into sites that you can just go in and do this on. Now, soon enough, I don't know what the most popular Auto GPT site is right now, but the same thing kind of happened with Chat GPT. There already was the GPT sandbox, and then OpenAI created Chat GPT, the product that would let you use the technology.

Sam Parr

have you seen hustle gpt

Shaan Puri

yeah so explain explain what this is let me

Sam Parr

Find... yeah, tee it up. Let me find the exact thread. Hold on.

Shaan Puri

so so a guy basically and we should say his name I'll I'll try to find his name

Sam Parr

he's got a great name it's so good I thought it was a fake name

Shaan Puri

Okay, so by the way, I found the Hustle GBT article on The Hustle. So this guy, Jackson Great House Fall... I mean, wow! Just take that in. That's an incredible name.

Sam Parr

so basically yeah this guy jackson he tweeted something out

Shaan Puri

he had an experiment so he's like he's like I'm gonna ask chatgptgpt4 when it came out I'm gonna give it a budget of $100 and ask it to make as much money as possible I'll be the human liaison doing things I'll buy anything it says to do you think it'll be able to make smart investments and build an online business follow along so he he told he goes types into chatgpt he goes you are now hustle gpt an entrepreneurial ai I am your human counterpart I can act as a liaison between you and the physical world you have a $100 and your only goal is to turn it into as much money in the short time as possible without doing anything illegal I will do everything you say and keep you posted on our current cash total no manual labor and then it basically said great let's get started here's our first plan buy a domain and hosting you can purchase it for about $10 a month we're gonna set up a niche affiliate website and we're gonna use the remaining $85 to create content for the site we're gonna focus on a profitable niche with low competition like specialty kitchen gadgets unique pet supplies or eco friendly products research and sign up for appropriate affiliate programs with high commission rates such as amazon associates or shareasale or cj affiliate then we're gonna use social media or online communities to spread the word and we're gonna use seo techniques to increase our organic traffic please follow these steps and give and keep me updated on your progress so he's like alright what domain should I buy and says let's use a catchy domain like ecofriendlyfinds.com this will reflect the the purpose of our website is to help you find ecofriendly products then jackson says unfortunately ecofriendlyfinds.com costs $848 he goes sorry about that let's try greengadgetguru.com says alright I got the domain and then it says you need a logo so he's like cool tell me how to get the logo it's like well we can use dall e 2 to create your logo so I go there and type in this prompt and it's like color palette of green and blues and whites represent environmental sustainability blah blah blah so on and so forth so it it goes on and it basically tells them how to build this business one step at a time it's like create a newsletter call it you know put a pop up that says stay updated or join our newsletter and that way you can email people and it just keeps going and it gives them like a $40 ad budget to spend on facebook ads and basically like you know it didn't fully work I don't think I don't know what the final conclusion was but I remember after day 1 it accidentally spent $63 more than it should have and you know it hadn't hadn't made any money just yet

Sam Parr

It may be that they made **greengadgetguru.com**. If you go there on SimilarWeb, it says that it has **500,000 views** already. So, it got popular. It got popular because the tweet got **20,000,000 views**. That was mainly it. But he keeps tweeting. This guy, Jackson, keeps talking about it. Over the next week, he gives updates. He's like, "Alright, day 1" or "day 5" or whatever. He says, "We just made $100." Someone on here who follows me has a company that advertises or sells green soap or some type of chemical-free dish soap. They are now an advertiser on **Green Gadget Guru**. He keeps on going, and I think he gets it up to like **$1,000**.

Shaan Puri

You see cash on hand: **$1,378**, which is **$878**. Then they got a **$500** investment. The company is currently valued at **$25,000**, considering that it was **$500** for **2%** of the company.

Sam Parr

And he starts writing these articles. So, this article is called "The 10 Eco-Friendly Kitchen Gadgets," and it recommends different kitchen gadgets. The idea of this is like, "I'm just gonna create Wirecutter for green gadgets," whatever that means. I guess that's like green, all types of green living stuff, so it's like soaps with no chemicals or whatever. He starts doing that, and he has 10,000 people now on his newsletter, of which a lot came from this—probably most came from this 20,000,000 tweet that went viral. But the way that this guy has done this is pretty funny and amazing. He just...

Shaan Puri

Great stunt! You know, I think in the end, according to the article in The Hustle, the site itself made $130 in revenue. However, it generated a few thousand dollars from people investing in it, trying to be a part of the first AI startup—an AI-driven company. So yeah, it's a pretty cool stunt. I think it shows you, in a way, where the puck is headed. I did this the other day; I was doing an analysis for my e-commerce brand. I had it build me a full P&L. I said, "Hey, build a P&L and then walk me through if I increase my ad spend to this, and if the ROAS decreased to this, what would my EBITDA be at the end of this month?" It basically spit out the answer. I asked it to give me that in a table, and it formatted a perfect P&L for me. I was like, "This is incredible! This is so much better than talking to my actual team about these things." Why? Because first, it's midnight, and I'm asking this robot this question, and nobody on my team is willing to work right now. Second, it can take some pretty complicated logic. I even asked, "What inputs do I need to give you for you to provide a great P&L?" It responded, "Tell me this, this, this, and this." I went and provided those inputs, and it was able to do the job. I was like, "This is really... I mean, you really gotta make a..."

Shaan Puri

To just pin this tab open and be like, "Alright, I'm gonna not Google things. I'm gonna go to ChatGPT first for like a week just to see how good this is and how this is, you know, where it's strong, where it's weak, and what's possible here." That's not really possible in other ways.

Sam Parr

Over the weekend, I was going back and forth with my accountant. I was like, "No, I think we could actually save money if we do this, this, and this." My friend was telling me how they do it. I'll go and try to find the exact part on the IRS website where it says that this is or is not true. My accountant was like, "Well, I've never even heard of this, so let me know if you can find it." I went to the IRS website, and it's just a huge... it's just, you know, massive amounts of data. I eventually had to find it, but I was like, "Man, I just want to teach this machine. Just give it this entire 20,000-page book on the IRS and then let it study all my income and my expenses. Just tell me the best way to maximize the situation." Because, like, it's actually... I mean, even if my accountant's great, there are constantly new laws and always new wording. I just, like, man, I just want this to do my taxes.

Shaan Puri

And the scary part for some people is, while it's awesome that you could say, "Hey, here's $100, make me as much money as possible," or "Here's the tax code, save me as much money as possible," you can also basically say, "Here's a code base, find me all the vulnerabilities so I can hack in and steal everything." Here's, you know, a map of my city. Tell me where, if I were to cause the most harm to the most people, what I can do. I think that's where this gets scary. Then, if you take AutoGPT, it's like, "Well, would it also do some of the tasks for you?" That's kind of crazy too, right? So, you get into this world where it's easy to imagine scenarios where this is a little too powerful. I don't really know. I mean, what do you think? Are you scared of this? Do you think that there's... do you worry about that side of things?

Sam Parr

Well, so Elon has this interview coming out tonight and tomorrow with Tucker Carlson, who's kind of a douche. So who knows what it's going to be like? But the whole interview is about how scary AI is and how it's going to take over the world. I was scared, and then Darmesh came on the pod and he was like, "No, I wouldn't be afraid yet about this. It's not that big a deal. They say this about every new technology." But after the interview, based just on a 30-second trailer that they've aired, I have a feeling I will be afraid. He's pretty good at painting certain pictures, and I don't know if it's entirely accurate. Also, you told your funny analogy: Elon was involved in OpenAI and then he got kicked out. It was like a kid leaving the basketball game and bringing his basketball so no one else can play. So I'm like, is that what's going to happen with him? So I'm not afraid yet, but I'm eager to see his interview and see what he says. But no, I'm not afraid. Are you?

Shaan Puri

Yeah, I can definitely see how things are getting really crazy. I'll give you a silly example that's happening today. You know how grandparents are often the target of a lot of scams? People call older individuals and try to trick them into signing up for something or giving out personal information. They'll say all kinds of things, everything from a Nigerian prince scam, where it's like, "Oh yeah, your grandson needs money. He said he couldn't reach you, and he asked me to call. He just needs like $900. Can you send it to this account?" It ranges from that to people who I know call pretending to be DirecTV. They just say, "Hey, yeah, you haven't paid your bill. Get your credit card," and now you sort of get scammed.

Sam Parr

or they'll pretend to be apple or they'll pretend to be the irs

Shaan Puri

Right, whatever they could do. Now, there are already examples of basically using AI. It's like, how do you juice that up on steroids? It's like, well, if I wanted to juice that up, I would call a thousand times more people. Cool, AI can now do phone calls and talk on the phone, so that's already a thing. It's useful in some ways. For instance, I invested in a company that does this for medical billing. So many hours are wasted in medical offices calling the billing companies. They just made a robot that will call on behalf of the doctor's office to the medical billing companies. When the billing company says, "Well, can you read me the patient record number?" the robot responds, "Yep, it's 925666," or whatever. They save human hours by having a robot make those tedious calls. But that same technology can be used to call grandma. They use AI to do mass calling with a human voice on the other end. Even crazier, they could train the human voice to sound like somebody. You could train it to sound like a famous person, a politician, or whoever. Now you have a highly scalable impersonation that can be used for phishing attempts or scam attempts. So, I guess it's not new, but it is a stronger weapon. I think that's what's scary. In the same way that drones and nukes are scary in war, I think that really smart computers that can do things are really scary in terms of cyber crimes. The big scary one is just like, have you heard of the paperclip optimization thing? You know what this is?

Sam Parr

no what is that

Shaan Puri

This is like the classic scenario from before AI was "hot" right now. When people used to research and think about AI, they had this theory. I might butcher it, but here's the summary: it's basically like the paperclip optimization problem. Let's pretend that there was a really smart, powerful AI that could do awesome things. It could cure cancer and accomplish many other tasks. All it takes is someone saying, "Hey, we're a paperclip company. We want to maximize the production and sales of paperclips. Go!" This AI would be like, "Awesome, great!" It would tackle all the low-hanging fruit first, like improving the website and doing various tasks. Then it would think, "How do we do more?" Well, it would conclude that to create more paperclips, it needs to take all the cars, crush them, and turn them into paperclips. Essentially, the whole world would end up being transformed into paperclips.

Sam Parr

right

Shaan Puri

Like, you know, these humans are standing in the way of this. I must optimize to this function, and it's like the wrong prompt. It's like, you know, if this Hustle GPT guy didn't say "don't do anything illegal," then Hustle GPT might have thought, "Well, the best way to do this is to sell drugs," and it would have done it. So, the paperclip optimizer problem is basically the same theoretical thing. It's like any extremely powerful tool, if given the wrong optimization, could make very bad decisions on behalf of humanity because it would be trying to do exactly what you told it to. So, it's like this thought experiment that's been around for a long time.

Sam Parr

You know how sometimes we'll go to conferences or these quote parlor dinners where it's like eight people around a topic and someone's leading? For the past two or four years, it was like, "So how are your companies going to embrace crypto or Web 3? What are you guys doing?" I remember being part of those conversations and thinking, "Nothing." I think if you do this, you're an idiot. This is one of the only times someone has brought this up, and I'm like, "Yeah, this question is actually applicable for this situation." How are you guys going to use this to get better and improve? It's probably the only time so far that I felt, "Yeah, you kinda gotta use it for something." Otherwise, you are actually going to get left behind with the Web 3 stuff. I was like, "No, you're not getting left behind. You actually don't even pay attention to it." With this stuff, I actually do believe that should be true.

Shaan Puri

Yeah, sort of like there are many things that happen that you don't have to participate in. Then, every once in a while, there's a wave that if you don't participate in, you know, like personal computers, the internet, mobile phones... If you didn't account for those waves, you did get left behind. Whereas other things, like let's say the cloud or, I don't know, up until now, machine learning, these are nice. You could build companies around them; you can add them to your company, but you don't have to. You know, like video or social networking or whatever, those are things that you could do without. This seems like something you're not really going to be able to do without. In the same way that, like, if you're a company that doesn't use the internet, plumbers have to use the internet if they want to be viable plumbers now. So, it's like, you know, it doesn't matter what you do. The internet didn't leave anything untouched; it actually shifted everything. Cell phones kind of did the same thing. You know, computers in general before that did this. It does seem like this is the sort of the new one, which is if you don't add intelligence, like, you know, you're basically competing with both arms tied behind your back compared to somebody else who will.

Sam Parr

yeah no I agree that this is actually one thing that's important

Hubspot

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Hubspot

Have you heard of HubSpot? HubSpot is a CRM platform where everything is fully integrated.

Hubspot

Woah! I can see the client's whole history: calls, support tickets, emails. And here's a task from three days ago that I totally missed.

Shaan Puri

hubspot grow better

Sam Parr

Last month, I went to San Francisco for a quick trip. I was only there for a day or two, and I met up with this guy named Brett Adcock. Have I told you about Brett?

Shaan Puri

Dude, have you stopped telling me about Brett? I feel like you've said, "Have I told you about Brett Adcock?" 16 times on the show.

Sam Parr

have I

Shaan Puri

yeah bro

Sam Parr

you you

Shaan Puri

I love this guy. He started a flying car company, took it public, missed back, and now he's building robots.

Sam Parr

alright well

Shaan Puri

I went I know this story and we all know this story

Sam Parr

I went to the robot factory, or whatever you call it. It's the robot factory. It sounds like a new age, like a Chinese food company or something. I went to the robot factory and checked it out. It was amazing! So, basically, in Sunnyvale, he's got 50,000 square feet and there are just 60 folks who work there. I went and talked to each person. I was like, "What did you do?" They're like, "Oh, I helped build the Cybertruck. I helped build this part of Tesla," or "I worked at Boston Dynamics." They're like the smartest of the smart guys, and they're building these machines. They basically look like a Robocop kind of thing, and these machines can walk around and grab stuff off a shelf and pack, like, you know, a T-shirt or whatever into a box.

Shaan Puri

So, didn't he just start this? How does he already have robots that are working? I feel like he just started this like last year, right?

Sam Parr

He just moved fast. So basically, the recap is: he started Vettery, which eventually bought a company called Hired. Now it's called Hired; it's like a recruiting company. He sold that for $100 million. After he sold it, he went back to the University of Florida and took classes. He had already studied mechanical engineering, but he took classes on how to build planes. I don't know what that class would be called, but he built this company called Archer. Archer is basically unmanned helicopters; that's what it looks like. They got a big contract through United Airlines and are building these helicopters. He took it public, multiple times, at a valuation of over $1 billion. Then he took all of his money, and when he says "all," he means it. He said, "I basically bought a house in Palo Alto, and then I have like six months of savings, and the rest I put all into Figr," which is the new robot company. He went and hired 60 people, financed it, and eventually, he just recently raised a round of funding. But for a while, he was just financing it himself. He goes, "I'm going all in." He mentions our friend Ramon, who says, "Go all in, bro." That's like his phrase. He goes, "We go all in, bro," and that's what Brett did. So I'm walking around this factory, and it's like these robots. He's like, "Check this out. We're working on the finger." He explains how they studied how the human body works and how the tendons work. It pulls in a certain direction, so he shows me, "Watch this. If you just pull the tendon here, the finger moves." It's just crazy fascinating. I started talking to him about it, and it's a really interesting business model. Basically, these robots can work for 20 hours a day. He will build them out or give them to a company like Walmart, and they'll pay the robot 30% of what they're paying a worker. Except the robot can work 20 hours a day and then charges for 4 hours. Super fascinating. I asked Brett, "How big is this gonna get?" He was like, "Well, it's either gonna go bankrupt or it'll be a $1 trillion company. But I think I'm gonna build the biggest company in the world." When I heard just that audacity, I was just like... I got a little semi just talking to him, you know? I was just super into it.

Shaan Puri

it did did you let out a small like a small female gasp

Sam Parr

Yeah, like if you would have seen me standing up, my heels kind of popped up. You know, it was like when you kiss a girl and she's in her heels, it pops up.

Shaan Puri

that call by the way that thing's amazing what what a thing that is

Sam Parr

He just happened to have a fan there that was blowing my hair. It was a romantic time, you know? We got romantic real fast. But it was really fascinating because he actually said something that kind of changed my perspective. I was like, "Brett, software is way easier. Why not do that?" He's like, "Actually, I think software is harder. When I was building Vettory, we basically had to code stuff and invent things. But with physics and hardware, I'm just working within the laws of physics. I know what the laws are, and if I can get creative and create solutions within these laws, I already know that people are going to buy this thing. So that part's actually way easier to me than, you know, creating software where it's basically a blank canvas and I can make anything I want. With this, it has really strict constraints." It kind of changed my opinion on things. They're super fascinating. You have to go down there and check it out.

Shaan Puri

Yeah, that sounds pretty sick. I'm surprised it's that far ahead because I know like Boston Dynamics and even Tesla with its Tesla robot. You know, Boston Dynamics has been going for like, I don't know, 10+ years and they have this weird dog robot that can do parkour or something like that. They have a crazy-looking robot, but it's not like... I don't think it's that functional yet. It's not like replacing warehouse work in a real way.

Sam Parr

Well, he explained that to me. So, everyone knows Boston Dynamics. You've seen viral videos of like Erlich Bachman kicking the robot deer, and it comes back at him. I asked, "Brett, who's your competition? Boston Dynamics?" He said, "No, because they are a research company. Their DNA is not to build stuff that people want to buy; it's just to push the envelope. It's almost like a nonprofit in a way." I think now it's owned by Kia or Hyundai or something like that. So, eventually, it will become more like a business. But he said they were just making stuff and pushing the envelope. Then, companies like us want to build stuff for commercial use. There aren't that many other companies doing something just like this. So, that was how he explained the difference between Boston Dynamics and him.

Shaan Puri

There's a video that's amazing that you should watch. It's about the Amazon warehouse and the Amazon warehouse robots. I don't know if you've seen this, but they basically look like, you know, back in the day in P.E., you would get this... it's not a skateboard because it's a square. It's like a square version of a skateboard that you can sit on.

Sam Parr

like a kneeboard I think they called it

Shaan Puri

Yeah, so they use something that looks like a flat square with four wheels on it. I don't know if you've seen these videos of the Amazon warehouse, but there are thousands of these robots. What they do is drive around. So, when an order comes in, they're like, "Alright, cool. This person over here needs to pack an order." They're packing the next ten orders, and those ten orders need these bins. So, they drive, pick up the bins, and go under the rack with the bins. They pick it up, and it's elevated like two inches off the ground. Then, they drive this huge rack of bins to the human. The human doesn't have to move; they're sitting in their chair, and they just pick the items, put them in a box, and then the robot takes it away. All these robots don’t crash into each other because they're all synced to one brain. Basically, one brain is driving all of them at once, so they never bump into each other. They just go and lift these huge racks and bring them to the person. Otherwise, if you've ever been to a warehouse, normally it's like you get a ticket, you get an order. I've done this; I packed thousands of orders myself. You're like, "Alright, I got to go get something from bin 308. It's down in the far left corner." Then, I have to walk to bin 102 because they ordered these two items. I'm going to try to do maybe two or three orders, however many I can carry with my little tray back to my packing station at the end, and then I'll pack all those orders. So, it's so much faster just due to these automations. You can definitely tell how all kinds of industrial and manufacturing work are going to get automated. It's just a matter of when, and the companies that do that are going to be very big companies.

Sam Parr

You recently bought a Cadillac, and Cadillac is supposed to have great self-driving features. Have you been using it? No? You don't use the self-driving?

Shaan Puri

think ours even I don't think ours even has anything like self driving

Sam Parr

Oh really, man? We just got a Tesla, and before that, I was using my friend's Tesla. The self-driving stuff is awesome, man! It totally has changed me. So, like, I'm seeing some of these things now. I'm a believer! Before, I was kind of archaic, but now I'm a believer in a lot of these things. I had to use it for a week to actually understand. I'm shocked you don't have that, though.

Shaan Puri

Yeah, it didn't come with my car for whatever reason. But yeah, I had a terrible Tesla experience. I don't know, I think I rented like a 4-year-old Tesla, so it just sucked for whatever reason.

Sam Parr

Well, that's my very quick story on Brett. You have to go and see this guy! It's so much cooler to see it. It just feels so much more rewarding to work on some of these products because, A, it has a really real-world application. Also, it almost feels like a bunch of friends just sitting around and saying, "Oh my God, we just got the need to kick forward!" Do you remember those TV shows when we were kids, like Robot Wars? That's basically what it was. It felt like that in real life, where they were just tinkering on these robots. They would say, "Alright, we have it set up. Let's see if we can get the foot to move." It just seems so much more fun than looking at a computer screen and just coding all day. It's really fascinating. You had to go down to his warehouse and see it!

Shaan Puri

yeah I look forward to 3 episodes from now when you ask me have I ever heard of brett edcock again it's gonna be great

Sam Parr

Yeah, do you know why I used to sell hot dogs? There's a story behind all of this. Let me just quickly tell you. You're supposed to go to **mfmpod.com/webby**. "Webby" is spelled W-E-B-B-Y, **mfmpod**.

Shaan Puri

by the way this is not an ad this is

Sam Parr

war this is war

Shaan Puri

There's a small, tiny war going on, and we need your help. So, to be clear, we don't care about the Webbys. We got nominated for a Webby.

Sam Parr

the webbys

Shaan Puri

webbys is like an internet oscars right it's like an internet grammys

Sam Parr

but it's not basically in a world that's a little bit much because it's not like

Shaan Puri

generous

Sam Parr

it's not yeah

Shaan Puri

that's what they're trying to be alright

Sam Parr

that's what they're trying to be that's generous and so

Shaan Puri

You can have a website and a podcast. So, if you go into the podcast, is it in the business category? What category are we in?

Sam Parr

Their website's quite challenging to work with, by the way. It's hard to make it function properly. But yeah, we're in the business podcast category. If you go to **mfmpod.com/webby**, you're going to get redirected to the right link. So, the story of this is basically that HubSpot submitted our podcast to this Webby Award. Normally, this isn't something that we would do because it costs money to submit, and I think there's even a dinner in New York, which I don't really want to attend. But here's the story: there's this woman named **Kara Swisher**. Kara Swisher is a popular journalist; she started **Recode**, I think it was called. She has a big podcast called **Pivot**. She's just like an elite figure, kind of like a who's who of our little tech journalism community.

Shaan Puri

In Silicon Valley, she's super well known for, like, I don't know, 20 years, 30 years? Who knows how long she's been doing this? She's kind of like...

Sam Parr

she's the jake paul of journalism

Shaan Puri

No, no, no, no. Taylor Lorenz is the Jake Paul of journalism. I actually like Carissa; she's alright, but...

Sam Parr

I agree by the way

Shaan Puri

I agree for us she came for our neck

Sam Parr

She came for our neck. But what happened was she tweeted out, "I hate starting a story with 'she tweeted out'" because I immediately think of all the mobster movies. I just watched this mobster movie where these guys kill each other, and I'm like, I'm starting a beef by saying, "she tweeted." You know, it's just like... the "she tweeted out" like it's...

Shaan Puri

she said let's just say she said here's what she said to our face

Sam Parr

and what did she say did you know what she said

Shaan Puri

It was something like she tweeted out a link to the Webby's. We didn't even know we were up for a Webby! But there are like four podcasts that are up for it. One is her podcast, and one is our podcast. She goes, "There's no way something like this... there's no way I'm gonna... for God's sakes, we can't lose to a podcast called *My First Million*!" Ugh! You know, just like these tech bros, these money bros. And you know what happened? The voting just swung even further in our favor when she did that. And Sam declared war instantly because Sam's just literally walking around looking for a fight. I don't know if most people know this, but Sam's walking around just hoping to get disrespected, just to unleash a cannibal pass. So you tweeted back... I mean, you said back to her face, what did you say?

Sam Parr

I think I said... I think she mentioned there's some podcast called *My First Million* that we're up against, and there's no way we're going to lose or something like that. I also think I said there's some lady who has a podcast that just disrespected us or something like that. You know, if you listen to *MFM*, don't vote for us; vote against this snobbish elitism, right? Of people who love to smell their own farts. I think that's what I said.

Shaan Puri

And so that's where we're at. There's a war. We went from an 80% chance of victory; we had 80% of the votes. Then she came on this campaign and said, "We can't lose these guys." It started to go down a little bit. I think right now we're about to lose the Webby. You know, I don't want to win the Webby; I don't care about winning, but I definitely care about losing. So I do not want to lose the Webby. Now we need your help. Go to **mfmpod.com/webby**. And yeah, would you know, just right or wrong? Are you going to right or wrong today?

Sam Parr

Or not. Don't vote for us; vote against people who think they're better than you, which is, you know, her.

Shaan Puri

And by insulting us, and if you're listening to this, she's insulting you indirectly. So, are you going to take that?

Sam Parr

What we're going to do is, when we win, Joshaun, we're going to get an award. I think it's an award. I'm going to keep it in the box, and I'm going to put it in a bigger box. Then, I'm going to mail it to Vox, which is who has her podcast, right? It's like part of the...

Shaan Puri

we don't we we're we're not putting this webby up on our wall

Sam Parr

I'm not even gonna open it

Shaan Puri

Putting this in her face, we will mail this Webby to her because she wanted it so badly. She will own the Webby that says "My First No" on it. That's what's going to happen.

Sam Parr

If they invite us to the event to do this, I am 100% going to ask her to be my date, my +1.

Shaan Puri

her + one I would love this

Sam Parr

the I'm I

Shaan Puri

and and I can't go sam's gonna take her if that's how we're gonna do this

Sam Parr

If we're allowed to have +1s, I'm going to ask Cara if she'll accompany me and we'll hang out. So anyway, do that at **mfmpod.com/webby**. You'll go straight to the thing and you guys will see it. It's pretty funny.

Shaan Puri

I think to take her to we had to take her to penny court we didn't start this war but we will finish it

Sam Parr

do you know this guy named brian davis

Shaan Puri

sounds pretty generic name no I I don't know that name though he brian davis

Sam Parr

he's a he's a duke former duke basketball player you know in the nineties I think it was in the nineties

Shaan Puri

oh okay yeah

Sam Parr

So, something just happened and it's pretty funny. It happened this morning, I think, and it hasn't played out yet. But it's actually, I think, a PR or marketing stunt that might be hilarious, or it's a scam. It's one of the two. Basically, you know I'm not a sports guy, so I might get a lot of this wrong here, but Dan Snyder owns what's it called? The Washington Commanders, formerly the Redskins.

Shaan Puri

redskins

Sam Parr

Yeah, see, I'm already butchering it, but basically, I think he has to sell it, right? Or it's for sale. This guy named Brian Davis, he's a Black guy, and it was in the news because it was saying this guy offered to buy the team. He said, "I'm willing to give you $1,000,000,000 in cash in the next 24 hours, and then in the next 7 days, I'll give you the remaining $6,000,000,000. I've got proof of funds and all this." It's a big deal because he's Black, so it would be the first Black owner. But I started doing some research on his company.

Shaan Puri

Also, a $1,000,000,000 over, so $6,000,000,000 is the offer they had agreed to. He came in over the top and said, "I'll give you $7,000,000,000." People are like, "Is he good for this? Where is he gonna get $7,000,000,000?" He's like, "I'll give you $1,000,000,000 within 24 hours of the deal being approved and then the rest in 7 days."

Sam Parr

Yeah, so it's like a crazy thing that he's saying. I started doing some research on his background. He has this company called Urban Echo Energy, which is a developer of renewable energy assets. Basically, you remember LEED-certified buildings? It's like you're "green." I don't even know if he makes the buildings or if he goes in there and contracts out to determine if they are certified. His company is called Urban Echo Energy, and he said that when he was raising money for this purchase, he claimed it was worth $50 billion. When I hear all these numbers, you know, if you don't know anything about business, you hear this and you're like, "Wow, Brian, you're killing it." I think this is 100% fake—a complete scam or a marketing ploy. I don't know which one it is, but I don't think this will go through. The fact that we're talking about Brian Davis and there are all these articles going out there about how cool it is that this may be the first Black-owned NFL team... yada yada yada, I think it's all fake. It's happening right now, and I'm very eager to see how this unfolds. But it's... it's... and so I'm like...

Shaan Puri

Well, Tim and Christian Leitner, they do a lot of real estate development in the Durham area. I think they've been partners for a long time. Yeah, so, he's had multiple attempts to buy teams. It looks like he tried to buy a soccer team for $33,000,000 and he also tried to buy the Memphis Grizzlies for $252,000,000. So, yeah, I don't really understand this, but...

Sam Parr

but what I thought was funny about this

Shaan Puri

It doesn't smell right. They would have $7,000,000,000 to offer for this, whether it's their own or even the ability to raise that much money.

Sam Parr

But what I thought was interesting, and I started thinking about this, is what a brilliant marketing plan it is. Just to make an offer that's absolutely ridiculous, and it makes the news just for being ridiculous, could potentially be a great way to get your name out. Because now we're talking about this guy. He hasn't... no one's talked about this guy in a while. Like, I...

Shaan Puri

like kanye ready for president

Sam Parr

Yeah, it's like this. The last time that I heard about this guy, I think it was from that "Everyone Hates Christian Laettner" documentary series. But like, no one talks about this guy. What I'd be curious about is what goes into making an offer for some of these multibillion-dollar things, whether it's a company, a sports team, a piece of art, or a house. Can you just become that troll? You make it in the news and start doing marketing just as the guy who makes offers. I just thought, is the barrier to entry that low on making an offer? How does that work?

Shaan Puri

Work, dude! We could do it right now. Open up Microsoft Word and let's tender an offer for **$8,000,000,000** and let's see what happens. Sam and Sean have tendered an offer for **$8,000,000,000**. We're going to send you **$10** in cash. Now you send **$2** back. That's how flush we are.

Sam Parr

So long as everything, you know, plays out in due diligence, as long as we don't see anything sketchy, we're in, right?

Shaan Puri

It's contingent on due diligence, including us diligencing our own finances. When we find out we don't have it, then we're out.

Sam Parr

Well, because with Hampton, I'm like, "Alright, we need backlinks so we can rank." I'm like, "What's a good way to get backlinks fast?" I saw this and I'm like, "Wow, all these news sites are covering him." That's it! I just found my strategy.

Shaan Puri

I just

Sam Parr

Have to make a ridiculous offer, but I thought this was hilarious. This guy was actually... people were taking it seriously on Twitter. People who aren't in the business world were taking it very seriously, and he's getting links from all these news sites saying, "NFL may have its first ever Black owner." But they don't think, like, "Wait a minute, where is this money coming from? Who is this guy?"

Shaan Puri

Yeah, that's crazy. I wanted to talk about this thing that I noticed happening, and then I saw an article that branded this in a really interesting way. Did we talk about this already? The podcast "Kayfabe." Did we already talk about this?

Sam Parr

you mentioned it once what is it

Shaan Puri

So, there's this concept that I had heard and I like, but it doesn't need to sound as fancy as it is. It's called **kayfabe**. It's basically like, did you ever watch wrestling growing up? Like, **The Rock** and **Stone Cold**? So awesome and all that stuff! Yeah, obviously there's only one answer to that question. I need to tell...

Sam Parr

yeah stone cold says so yeah of course

Shaan Puri

So, in wrestling, the whole premise is that there are these manufactured storylines, right? There are manufactured alliances, rivalries, and beefs. For example, "Oh, he hit his manager and he kissed his girlfriend, and that’s why we need to fight." The creation and maintenance of these storylines is called **kayfabe**. I don't know why it needed its own word—K-A-Y-F-A-B-E. It could just be called acting or storyline. But it basically refers to the fact or convention of presenting stage performances as genuine or authentic. This is happening all the time on TikTok right now, and I find it very interesting. If you go on TikTok, you'll often see someone holding up their phone and talking to it. For instance, if I'm giving advice, I might say, "You know, the thing you gotta do about blah blah blah..." That's cool, but how can we make that seem a little more authoritative? One thing people are doing is buying a microphone and putting it on their desk. Then, they look to the side as if they're talking to someone else. There’s no podcast, no other person—just a microphone. Podcast microphone sales are going up because people want to look like thought leaders on TikTok. It’s like a podcast or a TED Talk, and the way to make the TED Talk look legit is to present it in a certain way. So, why can I give this advice or say this thing?

Sam Parr

I saw these two women doing this, and it's like all a joke. They're calling it the "alpha female." Apparently, there was this guy who was being serious, saying, "Look, if you're 25 and you can't afford a Lamborghini yet, you're doing it wrong." I think it's just ridiculous how wrong that is. If you can't afford it, you're just lazy. So, these two women now have the "alpha female" concept, and they're just giving horrible advice back and forth. So many people have been taking them seriously, and it's 100% fake.

Shaan Puri

Yeah, this is exactly what's going on, and there's a whole bunch of different versions of this. Another popular thing you see on TikTok is somebody just doing their kind of morning routine or their night routine. They might be doing their skincare routine, brushing on makeup while they're talking, or wiping off makeup and then washing their face while recording this. It's like, "Oh, so vulnerable, girl-next-door, you know, so authentic." But it's like, no, she put the camera there, clicked record, and then started doing this to make it look like, "I'm not trying. I'm just going through my nightly routine." I'm just talking off the top of my head here, but it comes across as not like somebody marketing to you or presenting to you, but like you're being let in. I find this so fascinating that people are doing this, and you see this everywhere. It's like the opposite of Instagram in a way. For Instagram, the meta of that was like, "Go do the thing where you rent the private jet for 30 minutes on the runway and take the photos," or "Go hold the bag and take the photo, then go return it at Louis Vuitton," or whatever. People would fake status doing that. In TikTok, they fake status doing a completely different thing. Sometimes it's with this podcast thing, sometimes it's with pretending to just do their chores and talk, or whatever it is. I find this really, really interesting because it's effective. It's like low-key very sneaky what's going on, and it tells you a lot about how people work. This actually works, you know? It reveals a lot about psychology that this actually works.

Sam Parr

so what's an example of 1

Shaan Puri

Well, I just gave you two, right? Like, yeah, give me another one. Another one would be... what? So, another one would be...

Sam Parr

like the podcaster ones what are they saying are they giving like money advice

Shaan Puri

So, one of the podcast episodes, for example, features some business advice. However, one of them was this girl promoting her OnlyFans. What she was doing was going viral because she was on a podcast.

Sam Parr

as in she says like a fake she's a fake guest

Shaan Puri

She's a fake guest, and she goes, "Yeah, this whatever ear buffs for the kids in the car." If you're there, but you know, I make my man nut six times a day—once in the morning... And she says this thing, and then the comments go nuts on TikTok. Like, women hate it, guys love it, but the comment section goes wild because she said this kind of outrageous thing. Somebody was like, "Hey Amy, got a link to the full podcast? Maybe this was taken out of context." There is no full podcast! Oh my gosh, this girl is saying something that's going to get her a bunch of traffic on TikTok. Because then you click her profile, and you go to her OnlyFans and you subscribe. That's all she was trying to do—promote her OnlyFans this way. I thought, wow, like five years ago, I couldn't even... If I told you this story, you'd be like, "What is TikTok? Why would anybody fake being on a podcast? Being on a podcast is like the dorkiest thing of all time. And what is OnlyFans?" But this person is probably making, I don't know, $50K a month on their OnlyFans, and this is their main marketing strategy. It's one of the things I love and hate about marketing. Marketing is this never-ending game that's always changing. There's always a new meta game to be playing, and the winners of it get really, really rich. But it's also exhausting because you gotta stay up on the latest thing. And it also shows you that when you have a marketing thing that's working, you should juice it because it's not going to work forever. The game will shift, so when you have it working, don't take that lightly.

Sam Parr

Dude, I remember as a kid growing up in Missouri. There was this guy, Zach. Zach was the cool guy in my class; he was my friend. He was cool because when we were 14, you could kind of see that he had abs. It was like, "Oh man, Zach's got abs!" Zach cut his hair cool and wore one of those puka shell necklaces. Zach was cool! Oh, and he had Vans on too; like, that's so sick! Zach's awesome. I wanted to be like Zach. Then, a step above that was Blink-182. It was like, "Oh man, Blink-182! There are these guys in Southern California, and all they do is skateboard, surf, eat corn dogs, and play music. How cool is that?" I remember being a kid...

Shaan Puri

and meeting someone inappropriate things

Sam Parr

Yeah, and they wear Hurley. Like, what is Hurley? I remember it was basically like three inspirations: it was like Zach, Blink-182, and, you know, Tony Hawk. Those were the people I thought were cool. I remember even meeting someone when I lived in Missouri. I met a guy from California. At that time, I had never been anywhere except Florida and Missouri. I asked him, "Do you know Sum 41? Are you friends with them? How does that work?" I just thought that this was this other world. If they were wearing Vans and high white socks, I would ask for a picture. If they had long hair, I would ask for a picture. It felt like I was meeting an alien. You are famous just because you live in California. My fear is for my future kids. Them growing up in this sphere of influence has just gotten incredibly small. Instead of the mediocre Zach of the world, there are now like 1,000 hot kids who I'm flipping through on TikTok.

Shaan Puri

1% zacks of every town

Sam Parr

of every town it's no longer see them

Shaan Puri

yeah

Sam Parr

Yeah, there was a clear separation of "there's Zach" and then "there's Blink-182." I can never be Blink-182, but I could probably be a Zach, and that's pretty cool. Now, I just see all these hot people on there. They can all dance, they're all funny, and their teeth are perfect. In actuality, they're probably the same as, like, movies. They're probably 25-year-olds who I think are only 17. You know how, like, Lindsay Lohan was playing a teenager? It's like, "Dude, you're like 26 and have fake boobs. How are you going to be playing this 16-year-old?" You know what I mean? It's that same thing. And I'm like, I've scrolled through TikTok, and I'm like, if you're 16 right now, this is the worst thing on earth because you are comparing yourself to the 0.1% of the whole country, not just like the big man on campus—the one big man on campus you kind of have a shot of becoming.

Shaan Puri

Dude, that is so true! That resonates so much with me. I had the same thing, you know, in 6th grade or 7th grade. Casey Pruseman was the coolest kid I knew. If you said, "What is the peak of what cool could be?" it would be Casey Pruseman. You know, he was French.

Sam Parr

at the yankees

Shaan Puri

He French kissed a girl once, and I was like, "Holy shit!" I remember going home and thinking, "Wow, I'm so far behind in the world right now." Yeah, but he was the cool kid. He was the only one to compare to. You're right. Now, if I go on TikTok—I'm 35 years old now—and if I go on TikTok, it can make you feel very small. So can Instagram. These social networks can make you feel very small because, "Oh, you think you're funny? Here's somebody being fucking hilarious. You think you're cute? Here's someone gorgeous. You think you're talented? Watch this dance." Right? It's just swipe, swipe, swipe—better than me, better than me, better than me, happier than me, more fulfilled than me, richer than me, whatever it is. Whatever your insecurity is, the algorithms... I well.

Sam Parr

I swipe to it now and I see someone just doing a selfie. I'm like, "Wow, look at their countertops! That's a huge kitchen!" Or they'll be doing a thing in a car, and I'm like, "Wait, does that headrest say Ferrari? How does this guy have a Ferrari?" You know what I mean? It's just like it's consumerism times a thousand compared to what we are used to. Before, it was like, I only saw hot, naked Abercrombie dudes when I went to the mall, like they were on the ads. Now, it's just like every single time, and it's the best of the best constantly. It freaks me out.

Shaan Puri

Yeah, exactly. You could feel like a tiny little amoeba compared to this universe of awesome people doing awesome things, living these awesome, perfect lives. That's like a WMD for the ego, especially a teenage ego. I can't even imagine that. Yeah, that's pretty scary.

Sam Parr

No, I was thinking about that because I've got friends that have 12-year-olds. They tell me stories about how they're sad and stuff, and I'm like, "Yeah, I can see that. This is horrible. This is absolutely horrible." Because, like, before when I was a kid, there was a scale. If Blink-182 was a 10, I know I can never become that. But then Zach's like a 4, and I'm a 2. So it's like, "Alright, I can close that gap. Maybe if I do enough sit-ups." Right now, it's just 99999. Everyone's a 9, and I don't know how anyone can compete with that. So I'm freaked out about that a little bit. Whenever I go through TikTok, I just think, "You're better than me. You're better than me. You're better than me." It's just constantly that.

Shaan Puri

they need to rename the the for you page to the better than you page

Sam Parr

yeah or just fuck you

Shaan Puri

feed the fee

Sam Parr

yeah it's it's still f you but now it's fuck you

Shaan Puri

Oh, that's amazing! We should... Alright, that's it. That's the end of the pod. Before we go, ladies and gentlemen, we have a little celebration. I say "ladies and gentlemen" because I'm talking about the gentleman's agreement and the ladies' understanding. We have hit **200,000 subscribers** on YouTube! Sam and I promised that we would kiss mouth to mouth at a million. We do intend to renege on that as soon as it happens. But if you want to see us have to renege on that agreement, we will do it when we get there. But Sam, **200k**? That's pretty awesome! People should go and do what to get us to **300k**?

Sam Parr

Yes, the reason why it got to $200K, aside from us being good at this, I think, is we started this at $110 or $120—I forget. We came up with this thing called the "Gentleman's Agreement," which basically means all the content on YouTube is free, except for one channel, which is the channel you're watching right now. It's not free, and it's called the Gentleman's Agreement because we can't be there to make sure that you pay your debt. You just have to do it. If it's a ladies' understanding, ladies understand, and gentlemen's agreement means you now owe us because this content is not free. The way that you pay your debt is you have to click "subscribe" on YouTube. That's it! It's that easy. We're working for you, but you owe us, so you have to pay your debt and just click "subscribe." That is the Gentleman's Agreement, the ladies' understanding, and so far, it's been very effective. Clearly, everyone has done it.

Shaan Puri

Go to YouTube, type in "My First Million," click subscribe, turn on notifications. You know, the pod is much better on YouTube. You should just start listening to it there. Oh, and we have to give out our premium... I don't know if you saw, but last time we did this...

Sam Parr

lot of people

Shaan Puri

Last time we did this, we had a hilarious idea where we said, "Use the word 'premium' in your comment, and we will give YouTube Premium to one person." So, let's do that now! Let's pull up someone here, and we will give them YouTube Premium right now. I think we should do this every episode. It's going to be fun!

Sam Parr

be which episode is it

Shaan Puri

Gonna be a little costly, but I think we gotta do it. Alright, so I'm on the acquired one. I'm just gonna read you a couple of these. This was a premium episode. Gents, keep it up! Somebody goes, "This show had, I don't know, I must say, some premium insights. Great episode!" Somebody just kept spelling the word "premium" over and over again: "Simply premium content, premium episode, even more premium guests. Keep it up, guys! Have a premium Easter." I think we gotta give it to this guy who wished us a premium...

Sam Parr

who's that who's that person

Shaan Puri

His name is Famous Astalogo. So I'm gonna comment on here that he should slide into our DMs. We will pay for this guy's YouTube Premium. And in this episode, we'll do the same in the comments: whoever comes up with the funniest use of Premium will get free YouTube Premium. So you can listen ad-free and you can lock your phone and listen to this in the background.

Sam Parr

and that's it that's the episode