Taking Simple Ideas Seriously

Shaan Puri discusses how Crime Junkie's creator Ashley Flowers built a true crime podcast empire by taking a simple concept and scaling it dramatically, similar to how Mr. Beast operates in his content niche.

Key Points:

  • Crime Junkie's Success Formula:

    • Started with a simple format: telling true crime stories to a friend who actively listens
    • The friend mostly nods and asks clarifying questions "when the listener would have one"
    • This approach works because "most content gets better the more you narrow it to an audience of one"
  • Growth and Expansion:

    • Started by taking existing shows/stories
    • Now has a team of 10 journalists doing original reporting
    • Launched "The Deck" where she works with local police to solve cold cases
    • Given access to evidence to help solve real cases
  • The Mr. Beast Comparison:

    • "She is basically the Mr. Beast of true crime"
    • Both took very simple ideas and scaled them dramatically
    • Both kept iterating on their core concept: "she just kept going with the very simple idea"
    • Both took their concepts "more seriously than anybody else"
  • Scale of Operation:

    • Hosts two podcasts herself
    • Produces shows
    • Sells ads and closes deals
    • Tours around the country and world
    • Previously worked 15 hours a day (now down to 10)
    • Has a 3-year-old daughter
    • Accumulated 500+ million downloads in five years
    • Built a full production company with "a hundred employees"
  • True Crime Market Observations:

    • The hosts have discussed true crime opportunities for years
    • Each year they thought it might be "too late" to enter the market
    • Yet each year, new 9-figure companies emerge in the space
    • Multiple companies have sold for $100M+ (Parcast to Spotify, Law and Crime)
    • Audience is approximately "80% women"
    • Sam believes women listen thinking "how would I get out of this situation" while men listen thinking "how would I get away with this"
22:00 - 30:56
Full video: 52:37
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Shaan Puri

Host of MFM

Shaan Puri is the Chairman and Co-Founder of The Milk Road. He previously worked at Twitch as a Senior Director of Product, Mobile Gaming, and Emerging Markets. He also attended Duke University.

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