Play vs Work Test

Shaan Puri's framework for discovering your natural advantages by examining what feels like play to you but work to others.

The core concept

  • What you do in your "five to nine" (outside work hours) reveals more about your natural strengths than your nine-to-five job
  • Look for activities where you go "beyond what's rational" - spending excessive time on things that seem pointless to others
  • The key is finding what feels like play to you but would feel like a grind to others

How to identify your "play vs work" activities

  • Ask others for their perspective - People around you often spot your natural inclinations before you do
    • Ask: "What's my superpower? What comes easy to me that's harder for other people?"
    • Ask: "Where do I spend time doing things that feel fun to me but would feel like a grind to you?"
  • Look for oddities in your behavior - Things you do that seem weird or excessive to others
    • Reading annual reports at midnight for fun
    • Practicing aim simulation for 4 hours a day instead of just playing the game
    • Spending hours on "random rabbit holes" that nobody assigned you
  • Notice what you do without being asked - Activities where "the teacher didn't call on you" but you did it anyway

Real examples from the transcript

  • Shaan's business research obsession
    • Reading Nevada casino revenue reports at 11pm-12am for fun
    • Building a "giant library of factoids and stories" through random business deep-dives
    • This seemed useless until podcasting made it extremely valuable
  • Shaan's NBA 2K franchise mode
    • Never actually played the games - only managed the franchise
    • Spent hours as GM scouting players, making trades, adjusting concession prices
    • Was literally "practicing being a CEO" since 5th/6th grade
  • Shaan's wife's bedazzling
    • Started as "girly thing to do" - bedazzling her phone in high school
    • Leaned into her OCD and artsy-craftsy nature instead of hiding it
    • Got really good at it, started getting celebrity clients, made thousands per month in college
    • Seemed like "useless waste of time" but became profitable

What to do once you identify it

  • Don't hide or fix these oddities - They're not broken, they're features
  • Ask yourself: "What superpower does this give me? Where does this let me thrive? In what scenario would this be extremely useful or valuable?"
  • Find the fit later - You don't need to know immediately how it's useful
    • Shaan had a "giant library" of business knowledge before the podcast existed
    • The skills and knowledge stick with you even when projects fail

Why this matters more than hard work

  • Project selection is #1 - What you work on matters far more than how hard you work
  • Who you work with is #2 - Your collaborators and environment are critical
  • Hard work is maybe 3rd, 4th, or 5th - Along with timing and luck
  • Hard work's real value: Developing skills that stick with you even when projects fail
    • Example: Shaan's sushi business failed, but he learned After Effects, iMovie, Photoshop
    • Those skills served him well in Silicon Valley later

The proximity principle

  • Being around people doing interesting things in your area of interest helps you see more "blueprints"
  • Seeing different lifestyles and activities helps you figure out what you'll actually do
  • Proximity lets you follow examples and iterate faster
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Shaan Puri

Host of MFM

Shaan Puri is the Chairman and Co-Founder of The Milk Road. He previously worked at Twitch as a Senior Director of Product, Mobile Gaming, and Emerging Markets. He also attended Duke University.

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