Podcast Listener Ceiling

Shaan Puri shares his perspective on why the podcasting industry faces natural growth limitations despite increasing content creation. His "shelf space theory" suggests that even as more people create podcasts, the fundamental constraint isn't discovery but rather the limited time people have for podcast consumption.

Key Points:

  • Podcast Consumption Limits:

    • Average power users only listen to 3-5 podcasts regularly
    • Even podcast enthusiasts have a natural ceiling on consumption
    • Time constraint is the key limiting factor, not content quality
  • Contrast with Other Social Media:

    • Users can follow thousands on Instagram/Twitter
    • Can consume 200+ people's content in 30-minute social media session
    • Podcast consumption requires dedicated listening time
  • Market Competition Reality:

    • Must break into listener's top 2-3 shows to succeed
    • Competing against established listening habits
    • Having an existing audience helps but doesn't guarantee success
  • Growth Potential:

    • Radio still has 2x more listeners than podcasts
    • Market penetration still low in general population
    • Room for growth in total podcast listeners
  • Winners and Losers:

    • Best podcasts in each category will continue to grow
    • Number of successful podcasts will remain small
    • Very hard to be a winner in any category
    • Starting from scratch without an audience is "basically impossible"
  • Future Outlook:

    • Supply-demand mismatch will continue
    • Shelf space problem won't be solved by market expansion
    • Success requires displacing existing shows in limited listener time
38:51 - 41:56
Full video: 46:39
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Shaan Puri

Host of MFM

Shaan Puri is the Chairman and Co-Founder of The Milk Road. He previously worked at Twitch as a Senior Director of Product, Mobile Gaming, and Emerging Markets. He also attended Duke University.

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