Pre-Post PMF Leadership

Shaan Puri and Sam Parr discuss how running a company changes dramatically before and after achieving product-market fit, emphasizing that most management practices only become relevant after finding fit.

  • Pre Product-Market Fit Focus:

    • Only focus on two core activities:
      • Figure out what your product is
      • Try to sell it and get customers
    • Expect rejection and iterate based on feedback
    • Keep iterating until you prove how to connect product with customers
    • Example Activities:
      • Constant customer calls (20-minute calls stacked back-to-back)
      • Writing landing pages yourself
      • Testing different angles and messaging
      • Direct involvement in sales and customer interaction
  • Post Product-Market Fit Focus:

    • Shift to building systems and team
    • Implement management practices:
      • Goal setting
      • Hiring processes
      • Team structure
      • Documentation
    • Start delegating core functions
    • Focus on scaling what works
  • Key Insight on Testing:

    • Similar to comedy:
      • Need to test different angles repeatedly
      • Must see which approach resonates
      • Can't assume you have fit without testing
  • Reality Check:

    • Product-market fit isn't always obvious
    • It's normal to be uncertain if you have it
    • Need to actively validate through customer response
    • Don't assume you'll "just know" when you have it

The speakers emphasize that most management advice only applies post-fit, and trying to implement complex systems before achieving fit is a mistake. The pre-fit phase should be scrappy, iterative, and focused solely on finding what works.

46:03 - 48:26
Full video: 48:50
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Shaan Puri

Host of MFM

Shaan Puri is the Chairman and Co-Founder of The Milk Road. He previously worked at Twitch as a Senior Director of Product, Mobile Gaming, and Emerging Markets. He also attended Duke University.

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