Pre-Post PMF Leadership
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Shaan Puri and Sam Parr discuss how running a company changes dramatically before and after achieving product-market fit, emphasizing that most management practices only become relevant after finding fit.
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Pre Product-Market Fit Focus:
- Only focus on two core activities:
- Figure out what your product is
- Try to sell it and get customers
- Expect rejection and iterate based on feedback
- Keep iterating until you prove how to connect product with customers
- Example Activities:
- Constant customer calls (20-minute calls stacked back-to-back)
- Writing landing pages yourself
- Testing different angles and messaging
- Direct involvement in sales and customer interaction
- Only focus on two core activities:
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Post Product-Market Fit Focus:
- Shift to building systems and team
- Implement management practices:
- Goal setting
- Hiring processes
- Team structure
- Documentation
- Start delegating core functions
- Focus on scaling what works
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Key Insight on Testing:
- Similar to comedy:
- Need to test different angles repeatedly
- Must see which approach resonates
- Can't assume you have fit without testing
- Similar to comedy:
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Reality Check:
- Product-market fit isn't always obvious
- It's normal to be uncertain if you have it
- Need to actively validate through customer response
- Don't assume you'll "just know" when you have it
The speakers emphasize that most management advice only applies post-fit, and trying to implement complex systems before achieving fit is a mistake. The pre-fit phase should be scrappy, iterative, and focused solely on finding what works.
46:03 - 48:26
Full video: 48:50SP
Shaan Puri
Host of MFM
Shaan Puri is the Chairman and Co-Founder of The Milk Road. He previously worked at Twitch as a Senior Director of Product, Mobile Gaming, and Emerging Markets. He also attended Duke University.