Zero Direct Reports Strategy
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Dharmesh Shah shares his unconventional approach to leadership at HubSpot, where he deliberately chose to have no management responsibilities despite being a co-founder. This strategy allowed him to focus on his strengths while avoiding areas where he felt less competent.
Key Points:
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Co-Founder Agreement:
- Had an early "heart-to-heart" with co-founder Brian
- Decided Brian would be CEO because Dharmesh "sucked at being CEO"
- Established zero direct reports arrangement
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Management Philosophy:
- Acknowledges he's not a good manager
- Could potentially improve with coaching but chose not to
- Believes in amplifying strengths rather than fixing weaknesses
- Maintains zero direct reports despite company growing to 4,000+ people
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Work Focus Strategy:
- Focuses on just 3 things at any given time
- Changes focus areas every few years
- Previous focus areas included:
- Brand
- Culture
- "Boldness" (pushing organization to take risks)
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Work Style:
- Maniacally focuses on chosen areas
- Says no to almost everything else
- Prefers diving deep into details rather than high-level oversight
- Example: Spent 300 hours on HubSpot culture code deck
- Gets involved in detailed work like reviewing copy with marketing team
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Results:
- Finds work enjoyable due to ability to choose focus areas
- Maintains this arrangement for over a decade
- Avoids the "grind" by keeping work discretionary and optional
29:01 - 30:13
Full video: 01:20:59DS
Dharmesh Shah
Co-founder and CTO of HubSpot, a leading SaaS company. Recognized as a top SaaS influencer in 2024, with expertise in AI-driven user experiences.
Committed to continuous learning and innovation in the tech industry, focusing on SaaS, AI, and martech.