Side Interest Engagement

A technique for building deeper connections with successful people by engaging them through their side interests rather than their main achievements. Based on observations of Ben Cook's networking approach.

Core Strategy

  • Focus on lesser-known interests rather than primary achievements
  • Look for passion projects or side channels that aren't widely discussed
  • Connect on topics where they have genuine enthusiasm but aren't famous for

Why It Works

  • Helps avoid forcing people to "play their greatest hits"
  • Gets more genuine, enthusiastic responses
  • Makes conversations more memorable and unique
  • Creates deeper personal connections

Examples Mentioned

  • With YouTube creators:

    • Skip discussing their main channel
    • Focus on new side channels they're just starting
    • Engage about their developing interests
  • With Joe Gebbia (Airbnb founder):

    • Instead of discussing Airbnb
    • Engaged about his interest in microplastics
    • Got more enthusiastic response on current interests

Implementation Tips

  • Do research beforehand to identify side interests
  • Have one specific thing prepared to discuss
  • Use it early in conversation to "crack open" the connection
  • Keep the initial prompt simple and genuine
  • Let them expand on the topic naturally

Follow-up Approach

  • Look for ways to be useful related to their interest
  • Connect them with relevant people
  • Share specific resources or examples
  • Send follow-up notes about discussed topics
  • Focus on adding value rather than asking for things

Key Insight

  • Success comes from paying attention to what successful people pay attention to
  • Different experts value different things - watch what makes them "lean in"
  • What seems like rubbish to you might be gold to them in their domain
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Shaan Puri

Host of MFM

Shaan Puri is the Chairman and Co-Founder of The Milk Road. He previously worked at Twitch as a Senior Director of Product, Mobile Gaming, and Emerging Markets. He also attended Duke University.

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